Pro-illegals file another law suit against HB1804

[guido911]

Apparently the latest attempt to undermine the will of the Oklahoma people also failed:

http://kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=138916

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Apparently the latest attempt to undermine the will of the Oklahoma people also failed:

http://kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=138916

yep, illegals from all origins better pack their bags and head back to where they came from.

[jamesrage]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Apparently the latest attempt to undermine the will of the Oklahoma people also failed:

http://kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=138916

Two fraudulent lawsuits down more to go


A small victory in the fight against illegal immigration but if it survives other fraudulent lawsuits it will be a huge victory against illegal immigration.

[Ibanez]

Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.

Let's say I break into your house.

Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave.

But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't
like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house)

According to the protesters:

You are required to let me stay in your house

You are required to add me to your family's insurance plan

You are required to Educate my kids

You are required to provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).

If you try to call the police or force me out,
I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have
a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house. And oh yeah, I get a free education, where you have to pay your own way through college.

And what a deal it is for me!!!

I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior.


Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! so you can communicate with me.And don't forget to make sure your forms are in MY language - I need to understand them...


Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America!

[spoonbill]

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.

Let's say I break into your house.
Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave.

But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't
like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house)

According to the protesters:

You are required to let me stay in your house

You are required to add me to your family's insurance plan

You are required to Educate my kids

You are required to provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).


If you try to call the police or force me out,
I will call my friends who will picket your
house carrying signs that proclaim my
RIGHT to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house. And oh yeah, I get a free education, where you have to pay your own way through college.

And what a deal it is for me!!!

I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior.


Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! so you can communicate with me.And don't forget to make sure your forms are in MY language - I need to understand them...


Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America!

Well said!

[MichaelC]

Did you guys see this:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071101_1__AUSci58616

It's already happening.  Suits to follow I'm sure.

[jamesrage]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

Did you guys see this:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071101_1__AUSci58616

It's already happening.  Suits to follow I'm sure.

That individual chose to violate the law then that individual should accept full responsibility for breaking the law.

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by jamesrage

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

Did you guys see this:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071101_1__AUSci58616

It's already happening.  Suits to follow I'm sure.

That individual chose to violate the law then that individual should accept full responsibility for breaking the law.

The law itself is getting ready to face it's first real test.  And even if it passes that test, it ain't anywhere close to over.

[Lister]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

quote:Originally posted by jamesrage

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

Did you guys see this:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071101_1__AUSci58616

It's already happening.  Suits to follow I'm sure.

That individual chose to violate the law then that individual should accept full responsibility for breaking the law.

The law itself is getting ready to face it's first real test.  And even if it passes that test, it ain't anywhere close to over.

You like anarchy huh michael? You say that regardless of what the law says it's what people know deep down is what really matters, and in your opinion, that means it's a racist law aimed at Hispanics. How so, the law says "illegal aliens" and encompasses every one that is here illegally.

You guys are impossible to argue with rationally because you IGNORE everything about this and put your own spin on it.

You want slaves here to do things for you right? How about this. I say that if the illegals are allowed to stay they be given the exact same wage as anyone else if they are qualified.

Be honest Michael C. You just want slaves and cheap labor, you care nothing about these people.

If the majority of drunk drivers are black, or Chinese, or Russian and we passed drunk driving laws that would be a racist and hateful law in your opinion because the majority of the people who would feel the impact of that law would be those drunk drivers of x race.

Your arguments hold no water in the court of public opinion. However, I do realize that this will ultimately be shopped around to a liberal judge until it is overturned. That's the way you guys work. Twist, spin, juke your way around until you get your racist and corrupt judges to do your bidding for ya. Pathetic. You guys had better wake up because one day this country will be a shadow of its former self (it already is in many respects). Go on and on and spout your racism and hate crap because you have no credibility whatsoever after the kind of rhetoric you spew on these boards.

[MichaelC]

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Keep em' coming, I can take it.

[restored2x]

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.

Let's say I break into your house.

Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave.

But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't
like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house)

According to the protesters:

You are required to let me stay in your house

You are required to add me to your family's insurance plan

You are required to Educate my kids

You are required to provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).

If you try to call the police or force me out,
I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have
a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house. And oh yeah, I get a free education, where you have to pay your own way through college.

And what a deal it is for me!!!

I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior.


Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! so you can communicate with me.And don't forget to make sure your forms are in MY language - I need to understand them...


Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America!

Most of this fits - except the "...DEMAND that you learn MY language..." part. I've never heard of that. I've never heard an alien, legal or illegal, demand that we speak their language. Could you fill me in?

[sauerkraut]

Anyone who is "Pro-Illegal" is "Pro--Lawbreaker". We need to deport every illegal alien  that is found out. A cop stops a car with a busted tail light & finds out the driver is illegal, goodbye, he's gone. Local cops can enforce other federal laws, why can't they also be allowed to enforce immigration laws? That's how you get rid of the 20 million illegals who don't belong here, you don't give them amnesty. Each illegal alien is costing taxpayers $22,000 a year the cost of a new Ford Mustang car. The illegals also drive down our wages and take jobs that belong to legal residents. They take jobs that our teenagers use-to do.. Illegal aliens are a slap in the face to everyone who came here the LEGAL way. We have to have secure borders we won't be a secure nation as long as we have open borders. This is not rocket science. Seal the border and deport every illegal that is found out NO Amnesty, No guest Workers.Enforce the law.

[rwarn17588]

sauerkraut wrote:

Local cops can enforce other federal laws, why can't they also be allowed to enforce immigration laws?

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Because it's not their job. It's INS' job. Plain and simple.

[Double A]

The constitutionality of HB 1804 will stand. If this is unconstitutional, then it should have been unconstitutional for Timothy Mcveigh to be tried under state and federal law in state and federal courts. States routinely make laws based on federal law and the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996(IIRIRA) specifically allows it in regards to illegal immigration. These are frivolous lawsuits, case closed.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

sauerkraut wrote:

Local cops can enforce other federal laws, why can't they also be allowed to enforce immigration laws?

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Because it's not their job. It's INS' job. Plain and simple.

Not only are you a constitutional law scholar, you also know the job descriptions of law enforcement officers. Some might think you suffer from "know-it-allism" I say your brilliant. Incidentally, does the INS even exist anymore?

In any case, TPD or the Sheriff's department, or any other local law enforcement officers will not be enforcing federal law. These officers will be enforcing the laws of Oklahoma, which Oklahoma is absolutely entitled to pass. In this case, Oklahoma passed a law to lessen the burden on its hardworking taxpayers who are footing the bill for government, educational, and medical services illegals use.