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Local TV news going downhill?

Started by sgrizzle, October 30, 2007, 10:27:38 PM

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spoonbill

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Originally posted by Ed W

Fox 23 is the worst of the lot.  During their 'breaking news' coverage of the stand off the other night, their reporter said, "Police are about to enter the apartment, but they're not certain if the man is completely dead."  

Completely dead?  Could he have been partially dead?

It's like watching the news as reported by teenagers.



I can't believe we live in a world where Death is still the #1 killer!

perspicuity85

quote:
Originally posted by Kashmir

I swear that our local news is obsessed with lost puppies, sick kittens, and other crazy animal stories.  A dog that walked to Michigan in search of an owner.  An amazing cat that can tell time, etc.  OK, I am exaggerating.  I am allergic to fur, so it may be my own cold, stony heart, but enough with the animal tales.




That's soooo true.  Every time I watch local news, they're busy on assignment saving someone's lost cat or something.  Most of the time, the news anchors are making corny jokes amongst themselves instead of reporting.  It's ridiculously unprofessional.  And what's up with channel 8's sports guy, he doesn't look a day over 15!


inteller

going downhill?  Hell man it went downhill years ago....it is underneath the swamp at this point.

The only point in watching the local news these days is to look at the poor but HAWT chics that have somehow been suckered into working the news beat in tulsa.

I haven't seen Krista FLasch on TV lately, I think she figured out it was time to get the FAWK outta here.

spoonbill

It's hard to create "shock & awe" (the goal of news organizations) in good times. . .and for the most part we are enjoying some very good times in Tulsa.

The issues that are huge like Tulsa's soaring murder rate or crumbeling streets are never fully reported because they are taboo.  They put the mayor, her policies, and her appointees in a bad light.  All they can do is look at the 800 pound gorilla and acknowledge it every now and then so as to not look completely biased.

Our local news organizations and thier owners worked so hard to make sure this mayor was voted into office, they now find themsleves limited as to what they can say.  After all, we saw reporters quit their jobs to become campaign consultants.  Don't think for a minute they weren't compensated heavily by their "former" organization to make this move.

So. . .we are doomed to hear more stories about lost kitty-cats.


"Nothing to see here!  Please move along!"

alanoftulsa

Fox 23 is the worst of the lot. During their 'breaking news' coverage of the stand off the other night, their reporter said, "Police are about to enter the apartment, but they're not certain if the man is completely dead."

Completely dead? Could he have been partially dead?


Yes he could have been partially dead.  This close to Halloween there are Zombies running around everywhere....

swake

quote:
Originally posted by spoonbill


The issues that are huge like Tulsa's soaring murder rate or crumbeling streets are never fully reported because they are taboo.  They put the mayor, her policies, and her appointees in a bad light.  All they can do is look at the 800 pound gorilla and acknowledge it every now and then so as to not look completely biased.

Our local news organizations and thier owners worked so hard to make sure this mayor was voted into office, they now find themsleves limited as to what they can say.  After all, we saw reporters quit their jobs to become campaign consultants.  Don't think for a minute they weren't compensated heavily by their "former" organization to make this move.



This is nonsense.

Our local TV stations chase murder and all crime around like a puppy chases Milk Bones.

You might want to check it out, our murder rate and crime rate overall that soared under the previous (Republican) mayor has been slowing sliding downward for a few years. It's still too high but it IS declining. And that is what you would never know watching the local news. Crime equals ratings.  They aren't protecting the mayor. Anyway, even if they were, which mayor do you think they are protecting, the current one or the last one?

As for streets, do you really think the streets issue started 18 months ago? It was the last mayor that pushed through the 3rd penny so hard right before the last city election so the current mayor has less ability to focus funds on what she sees as city needs as opposed to what he saw.

But, keep on with the "Blame Taylor" drum, it's soothing at night.

spoonbill

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Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by spoonbill


The issues that are huge like Tulsa's soaring murder rate or crumbeling streets are never fully reported because they are taboo.  They put the mayor, her policies, and her appointees in a bad light.  All they can do is look at the 800 pound gorilla and acknowledge it every now and then so as to not look completely biased.

Our local news organizations and thier owners worked so hard to make sure this mayor was voted into office, they now find themsleves limited as to what they can say.  After all, we saw reporters quit their jobs to become campaign consultants.  Don't think for a minute they weren't compensated heavily by their "former" organization to make this move.



This is nonsense.

Our local TV stations chase murder and all crime around like a puppy chases Milk Bones.

You might want to check it out, our murder rate and crime rate overall that soared under the previous (Republican) mayor has been slowing sliding downward for a few years. It's still too high but it IS declining. And that is what you would never know watching the local news. Crime equals ratings.  They aren't protecting the mayor. Anyway, even if they were, which mayor do you think they are protecting, the current one or the last one?

As for streets, do you really think the streets issue started 18 months ago? It was the last mayor that pushed through the 3rd penny so hard right before the last city election so the current mayor has less ability to focus funds on what she sees as city needs as opposed to what he saw.

But, keep on with the "Blame Taylor" drum, it's soothing at night.




One thing we can both agree on is that our last mayor was worthless too.  It's not a Republican/Democrat thing.

swake

Here's a sampling of each stations local headlines (all have the new immigration law on top) RIGHT NOW:

KOTV:
Woman Brutally Beaten
Man Struck And Killed Overnight

KTUL:
Officers Arrest Man In Bank Robbery

KJRH
Changes for sex offender registery  
One shot, one killed at Tulsa Halloween party
Pedestrian struck, killed near Tulsa's Hunter Park  

KOKI
Fatal auto pedestrian accident this morning
Shooting leaves one dead
Police shoot standoff suspect
New sex offender laws
New police office opens downtown

spoonbill

quote:
Originally posted by swake

Here's a sampling of each stations local headlines (all have the new immigration law on top) RIGHT NOW:

KOTV:
Woman Brutally Beaten
Man Struck And Killed Overnight

KTUL:
Officers Arrest Man In Bank Robbery

KJRH
Changes for sex offender registery  
One shot, one killed at Tulsa Halloween party
Pedestrian struck, killed near Tulsa's Hunter Park  

KOKI
Fatal auto pedestrian accident this morning
Shooting leaves one dead
Police shoot standoff suspect
New sex offender laws
New police office opens downtown





Must be a slow news day.

I admit, I was a bit harsh, but I don't like to see any politician pampered by the media.  And, she dosen't get nearly enough tough questions or challenges.

Rico

Originally posted by swake.
quote:


You might want to check it out, our murder rate and crime rate overall that soared under the previous (Republican) mayor has been slowing sliding downward for a few years. It's still too high but it IS declining. And that is what you would never know watching the local news.



I wish the above were true swake... Have a look at the numbers...

The murder rate, as you can see, will likely set a new record. Some will be on a level equal to previous years.. But the crime rate is in no way being taken as seriously as it should be...

Public Safety is still not priority number one.

patric

quote:
Originally posted by spoonbill

The issues that are huge like Tulsa's soaring murder rate or crumbeling streets are never fully reported because they are taboo.  They put the mayor, her policies, and her appointees in a bad light.

Our local news organizations and thier owners worked so hard to make sure this mayor was voted into office, they now find themsleves limited as to what they can say.  After all, we saw reporters quit their jobs to become campaign consultants.  Don't think for a minute they weren't compensated heavily by their "former" organization to make this move.



This is extremely uninformed.  Local media are at odds all the time with the powers to be.  For instance, the only reason you saw video from the  standoff with the bipolar man shot by the sniper is because reporters resisted when they were being forced to turn over their video to police.
Even after they fought confiscation and threats of arrest, I dont think anyone aired the actual shooting itself (which shows a lot of restraint).

It's absurd to think broadcasters toe the line with the Taylor administration, but I will agree too many daily assignments are influenced by what they see in the corporate PR mill that is the Tulsa Whirled.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

swake

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

Originally posted by swake.
quote:


You might want to check it out, our murder rate and crime rate overall that soared under the previous (Republican) mayor has been slowing sliding downward for a few years. It's still too high but it IS declining. And that is what you would never know watching the local news.



I wish the above were true swake... Have a look at the numbers...

The murder rate, as you can see, will likely set a new record. Some will be on a level equal to previous years.. But the crime rate is in no way being taken as seriously as it should be...

Public Safety is still not priority number one.



Using that data, total crimes reported year to date through September of each year:

2003   22,857
2004   23,659
2005   22,710
2006   22,174
2007   22,055


Makes my point exactly. We peaked under LaFortune in 2004 and have been slowly going down ever since. The murder rate is not the total picture of crime in Tulsa today, it's just what makes headlines.

RecycleMichael

22,000 crimes?

We got to catch that guy.
Power is nothing till you use it.

PonderInc

B/c I don't watch TV news, I'm always shocked by the stupidity when I see it.  Local news is total crap.  If nothing bad happened that day, they find something hideous SOMEWHERE in the country to talk about (I thought it was supposed to be LOCAL news!  Not national fearmongering...).  They also go out of their way to create some "fear" that you should have.  ("Is your snack food killing you?!")

All it does is cause fear among people and perpetuate the myth that the world is dangerous and all people are bad..."horrible things are happening everywhere and no one is safe!"  "Your neighbor might be a child molester!"  "Radon gas kills Kentucky family!" (or whatever).

What goes unreported every day is that several hundred thousand people went about their business, safe and unmolested.  Neighbors helped each other.  People smiled at one another, and laughed together.  Strangers were kind.  Thousands volunteered their time all over town.  Folks in grocery lines let others jump ahead.  Kids fell off their bikes and total strangers stopped to offer comfort and first aid.

Whenever there's a disaster, we're always amazed at how many people respond, and how many people want to help.  We shouldn't be amazed.  People do inspiring, kind, and generous things every single day...it just doesn't make the news.


swake

There are about 30,000 crimes a year in Tulsa, with the 900,000+ people in the metro that come into Tulsa on a regular basis plus visitors you can expect to be a victim of a crime in Tulsa about once every 30 years or so. 80% of those crimes are property crimes so odds are that if you lived to be 80 years old and spent your whole life living in Tulsa you might over the course of your entire life be a crime victim 2-3 times and most likely never experienced any kind of violent crime, in your entire life.

Stay out of high crime areas, lock your doors and don't do drugs and your odds get much, much better than even these numbers.

So much for "rampant" crime.