Any noticable effects of 1804 yet?

[RecycleMichael]

I realize it has only been a few hours since the law went into effect, but I haven't seen any great disruption of city life yet. The way some people were talking, you couldn't get a roof fixed, a lawn mowed, or order a burrito after yesterday.

I plan to have a Mariachi band play at a party in a couple of weeks...my big worry is that it is going to be a couple of gringos named Murray and Archie.  

Has anybody seen any effects yet?

[spoonbill]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

I realize it has only been a few hours since the law went into effect, but I haven't seen any great disruption of city life yet. The way some people were talking, you couldn't get a roof fixed, a lawn mowed, or order a burrito after yesterday.

I plan to have a Mariachi band play at a party in a couple of weeks...my big worry is that it is going to be a couple of gringos named Murray and Archie.  

Has anybody seen any effects yet?

It has to go through the state Senate and then to the Governers desk to sign first.  You still have time to stock up on burritos.  

Once it's signed, an army of lawyers with police scanners will descend on Oklahoma ready to file racial discrimination suits on anything that moves.

That's why I would like to propose the "spoonbill amendment" requiring illegals to wear this shirt.

[tim huntzinger]

The guys pouring concrete in front of the store were gringos; a painter reported that mudders and drywallers have disappeared; an apartment owner said in one of his complexes about ten units have gone vacant (he laughed, 'Thats about forty of them.'); last night only two hispanic families t&t'ed compared to about six or seven last year.

At the Alamo, one of the soldiers looks out at the 25K Mexicans: 'Who ordered concrete?'

[Kashmir]

As long as they still have the places I can get the cheap spices in the little bags. Stuff it, Spice Islands, these are much cheaper and you get more.  Why do I gravitate threads towards food?[]

[patric]

Apparently it's already affecting business that mainly cater to the Hispanic population:

'Jerald Almazan owns Las Juanas, a traditional Hispanic restaurant in east Tulsa.  He says the new immigration law is affecting his food sales.  "We're going to consume that cost.  We're going to pray that it comes back."'
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=38a167b3-7c34-4f0a-aa8d-66bdda066ce0

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by patric

Apparently it's already affecting business that mainly cater to the Hispanic population:

'Jerald Almazan owns Las Juanas, a traditional Hispanic restaurant in east Tulsa.  He says the new immigration law is affecting his food sales.  "We're going to consume that cost.  We're going to pray that it comes back."'
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=38a167b3-7c34-4f0a-aa8d-66bdda066ce0

Is the food there any good?

[jne]

I lost some neighbors last month. They were good, respectful, hard-working folks. I shudder to think of who will replace them.  I hate property management companies...

I head the the Dia De Los Muertos party last night at Living Arts was pretty short on Mexican folks, but I don't think there is much of a baseline to gage normal attendance

[RecycleMichael]

Don't you think that having the immigration law going into effect on the same day as the Hispanic "Day of the Dead" was an ironic twist?

[jne]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

Don't you think that having the immigration law going into effect on the same day as the Hispanic "Day of the Dead" was an ironic twist?

Ya think?!

[sauerkraut]

#1804 Rocks Oklahoma and Tulsa rocks Oklahoma. I think 1804 is great I just hope they enforce it. We also need secure borders no nation can survive with open borders and letting anyone who wants to come here stroll right in. Driver licenses for illegal aliens is really nuts. giving illegal aliens legal ID with fake names on it scares me. Many of the terrorist hi-jackers on 09-11-01 had a few driver licenses. We need to seal the border and deport the illegals. I would favor the local cops to make immigration arrests.[}:)]

[Dana431]

A friend of mine works in a local country club kitchen.  He lost all of his dishwashers.  His stories tend to be on the dramatic side, though.

[restored2x]

My wife works at Skelly Elementary in the ELL program. Out of 600 kids, 20 have left. Don't know if that is indicative of any kinds of percentage, because I don't know how many of the 600 are Hispanic.

I used to live at 31st and Mingo (where the school is) and have personal ties with the Hispanic community, so I'm pretty sure there is a large percentage of Hispanics among those 400 kids.

I was a little suprised that only 20 kids had left. The way people were talking, I thought there would be a great exodus of Hispanics. Maybe "Dad" has already left and is saving up money elsewhere and will send for the wife and kids later. Maybe the exodus will be more gradual, if it happens at all.

EDIT: changed numbers from 400 to 600 after talking more with my wife.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

Don't you think that having the immigration law going into effect on the same day as the Hispanic "Day of the Dead" was an ironic twist?

Poetic justice.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

I realize it has only been a few hours since the law went into effect, but I haven't seen any great disruption of city life yet. The way some people were talking, you couldn't get a roof fixed, a lawn mowed, or order a burrito after yesterday.

I plan to have a Mariachi band play at a party in a couple of weeks...my big worry is that it is going to be a couple of gringos named Murray and Archie.  

Has anybody seen any effects yet?

As you say.... It may be too early to tell....

I was reading an article today that made me feel  somewhat closer to the images and thoughts that must be going through their minds as they make their way to Amarillo....




From the Manitoba Herald, Canada (a very underground paper):


The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration.

The actions of President Bush are prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray,
and agree with Bill O'Reilly.

Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists and Unitarians crossing their fields at night.
"I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry. "He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken."
When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?"

In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. "Not real effective," he said. "The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk."

Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves.

"A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions," an Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. "They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though."

When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the Bush administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and watch NASCAR races.

In recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the '50s.
"If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age," an official said.

Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies.

"I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said. "How many art-history majors does one country need?"






 [}:)]

[Hometown]

It looks to me like we are on a fast track headed towards a labor crisis in Oklahoma.  The positive side of this is that major employers are going to be talking to the governor very soon.  On the negative side, I'm not convinced that Oklahoma won't commit suicide to prove to a point.  Unfortunately I own real estate here and have some money here and my fate is joined with Oklahoma's.