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New apartments for Tulsa, possibly "Class A"?

Started by TheArtist, November 02, 2007, 10:49:12 PM

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

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Originally posted by TheArtist

Some of those areas in that part of town seem like they would be prime places to do half-mile through streets. Cut each mile section into fourths. Would enable a different dynamic and higher density. You wouldnt just have commercial and business on the mile streets, they could also be on the half mile streets, with high density living in the center of each quarter section. Mile sections seem to leave a hollowed out center in the middle with all the traffic, businesses and people forced out to the edges rather than more evenly dispersed. Half mile sections would help create development patterns that are more "european" and walkable.



There is a fairly unknown road that connects southcrest to TCC that lets you bypass mingo. It would also be easy to connect the road on 71st (101st, which has a light) that runs by lowes back to cancer treatment center. That would mean you could drive basically from 61st to 91st without hitting a main road and only crossing at lighted intersections.



Yes there are all kinds of "fairly unkown" roads. I didnt mean to suggest that there werent. What I was trying to convey is that  they arent set up as main arterials like 71st or Mingo. They often wind around, dont have stop lights, sometimes go right through residential neighborhoods. They often arent set up or even zoned with the intention of having similar things along them that the main arterials do. I am thinking of roads like Utica and 15th street which are midway streets between the main arterials of Lewis and Peoria, and 11th and 21st. That type of set up creates a different dynamic and feel to an area. Mile wide "superblocks" are just too large for areas that you may want to have higher density in. You can still have businesses and such along those streets and residential in the middle of each quarter mile. But the feel is more "cozy" and you can more easily walk/bike from the center neighborhood to the outer streets where shops and such are. The smaller scale encourages a different development dynamic, flow, sense of place and community.
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Originally posted by perspicuity85

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

It says estancia is close. I would think a "luxury" development facing a backed-up 2-lane road would be a bit of a hard sell.



Mingo Rd. seems like an excellent opportunity for the city to design a road correctly for once.  



well they have already failed.  you don't piecemeal out **** like they have done to simply create more bottlenecks.  It is a travesty that mingo wasn't 4 laned completely from 71st/81st....let alone 81st/91st.  When patients in ambulances start dying on that clogged artery you can guarantee someone will put forth the money to make it happen.