Rumor has it Randi "Brain Candy" Miller...

[TeeDub]

SECTION 7. QUALIFICATION OF OFFICERS. No person shall be eligible to hold the office of Mayor or City Auditor unless such person shall be a qualified elector and resident of the city at the time of filing for the office.


What makes me wonder is this; Are all of the members of each board, commission, authority and agency have their primary residence in the city of Tulsa?


G. Appoint, subject to confirmation by a majority vote of the entire membership of
the Council, the members of all boards, commissions, authorities, and agencies created by this amended Charter, ordinance, agreement, or pursuant to law, and exercise general
control and supervision thereof, provided,
all appointees shall, as a condition of their appointment and continued service, be qualified electors and maintain their principal residence within the city limits of the City of Tulsa;

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub

SECTION 7. QUALIFICATION OF OFFICERS. No person shall be eligible to hold the office of Mayor or City Auditor unless such person shall be a qualified elector and resident of the city at the time of filing for the office.


What makes me wonder is this; Are all of the members of each board, commission, authority and agency have their primary residence in the city of Tulsa?


G. Appoint, subject to confirmation by a majority vote of the entire membership of
the Council, the members of all boards, commissions, authorities, and agencies created by this amended Charter, ordinance, agreement, or pursuant to law, and exercise general
control and supervision thereof, provided,
all appointees shall, as a condition of their appointment and continued service, be qualified electors and maintain their principal residence within the city limits of the City of Tulsa;

It appears that they must maintain their principal residences within the city limits of the City of Tulsa.

Moving outside their city limits would disqualify them.

Hmmmmmmh?

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[spoonbill]

Next thing we'll find out is that she carries a Florida Driver's License.

Wait. . . Does she carry a Florida Driver's License?

I'm just gonna have to ask for some ID next time she writes a check from her SunTrust Bank account.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

Next thing we'll find out is that she carries a Florida Driver's License.

Wait. . . Does she carry a Florida Driver's License?

I'm just gonna have to ask for some ID next time she writes a check from her SunTrust Bank account.

A D.L. wouldn't be conclusive proof of residency in and of itself.  

People frequently keep a former states D.L. long after re-locating to a new state, since it's usually a inconvenience to exchange one.

BIG hassle in Tulsa COUNTY as there are only two DPS Drivers License bureaus, with lines usually out of door:

36th Street North, and downtown Jenks.  But, they are building another:  

In BROKEN ARROW.  

Oh why, or why does Tulsa (and Tulsans) ALWAYS get the shaft?

[!]

[spoonbill]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

Next thing we'll find out is that she carries a Florida Driver's License.

Wait. . . Does she carry a Florida Driver's License?

I'm just gonna have to ask for some ID next time she writes a check from her SunTrust Bank account.

A D.L. wouldn't be conclusive proof of residency in and of itself.  

People frequently keep a former states D.L. long after re-locating to a new state, since it's usually a inconvenience to exchange one.

BIG hassle in Tulsa COUNTY as there are only two DPS Drivers License bureaus, with lines usually out of door:

36th Street North, and downtown Jenks.  But, they are building another:  

In BROKEN ARROW.  

Oh why, or why does Tulsa (and Tulsans) ALWAYS get the shaft?

[!]

Well. . . I hope you haven't done this FB.  

Hassle or not, Oklahoma requires you to get an Oklahoma driver's license within 30 days of establishing residency.

You don't think Mrs. Taylor would break the law do you?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

Next thing we'll find out is that she carries a Florida Driver's License.

Wait. . . Does she carry a Florida Driver's License?

I'm just gonna have to ask for some ID next time she writes a check from her SunTrust Bank account.

A D.L. wouldn't be conclusive proof of residency in and of itself.  

People frequently keep a former states D.L. long after re-locating to a new state, since it's usually a inconvenience to exchange one.

BIG hassle in Tulsa COUNTY as there are only two DPS Drivers License bureaus, with lines usually out of door:

36th Street North, and downtown Jenks.  But, they are building another:  

In BROKEN ARROW.  

Oh why, or why does Tulsa (and Tulsans) ALWAYS get the shaft?

[!]

Well. . . I hope you haven't done this FB.  

Hassle or not, Oklahoma requires you to get an Oklahoma driver's license within 30 days of establishing residency.

You don't think Mrs. Taylor would break the law do you?

I plead Not Guilty.

And, I'd prefer to exercise my 5th Amendment rights to remain silent at this time.

[:O]

[TURobY]

Oh good grief! If you are so sure of yourself, then do us a favor and file charges. Otherwise, you're just wasting our time with your ramblings.

[spoonbill]

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

I considered posting a picture from Google Earth, but I thought it would be fun to issue a challenge.

Find Cathy Taylor and Bill Lobeck's Florida Home and post the image.

Hints:

1. South Florida
2. William E. Lobeck also has interests in several local businesses.
3. On a canal with dock parking and two nice Yachts.
4. 12,800 sq.ft.
5. Registered Voter and *donor*.

This should be fun. . .

Ok, No one has decided to take on my little challenge yet.  Here's another hint that will make it easier to find.  In February 2004, Mrs. Kathryn Lobeck of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, gave $2000 to George W. Bush's reelection campaign.

She and Bill also donated to some local Democrat campaigns for amounts ranging from $250 to $500.

She always uses the name Katheryn Lobeck when doing business in Florida.

Happy searching.
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[Conan71]

If Bledsoe is lurking around, word around the campfire is he knows some of the answers about the goings on in Ft. Lah-dee-dah.  I bet Don McCorkle knows as well.  My 411 says McCorkle's the reason they got caught in the homestead exemption jangle.

[Wrinkle]

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

I considered posting a picture from Google Earth, but I thought it would be fun to issue a challenge.

Find Cathy Taylor and Bill Lobeck's Florida Home and post the image.

Hints:

1. South Florida
2. William E. Lobeck also has interests in several local businesses.
3. On a canal with dock parking and two nice Yachts.
4. 12,800 sq.ft.
5. Registered Voter and *donor*.

This should be fun. . .

Ok, No one has decided to take on my little challenge yet.  Here's another hint that will make it easier to find.  In February 2004, Mrs. Kathryn Lobeck of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, gave $2000 to George W. Bush's reelection campaign.

She and Bill also donated to some local Democrat campaigns for amounts ranging from $250 to $500.

She always uses the name Katheryn Lobeck when doing business in Florida.

Happy searching.
[]

Best guess, due to size of boat, architecture, addressing (west even) and comparisson to Tulsa home:



...wha'd I win?
If it's not that one, it's surely one of the others in the image.

[spoonbill]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

I considered posting a picture from Google Earth, but I thought it would be fun to issue a challenge.

Find Cathy Taylor and Bill Lobeck's Florida Home and post the image.

Hints:

1. South Florida
2. William E. Lobeck also has interests in several local businesses.
3. On a canal with dock parking and two nice Yachts.
4. 12,800 sq.ft.
5. Registered Voter and *donor*.

This should be fun. . .

Ok, No one has decided to take on my little challenge yet.  Here's another hint that will make it easier to find.  In February 2004, Mrs. Kathryn Lobeck of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, gave $2000 to George W. Bush's reelection campaign.

She and Bill also donated to some local Democrat campaigns for amounts ranging from $250 to $500.

She always uses the name Katheryn Lobeck when doing business in Florida.

Happy searching.
[]

Best guess, due to size of boat, architecture, addressing (west even) and comparisson to Tulsa home:



...wha'd I win?
If it's not that one, it's surely one of the others in the image.

Correct hood I believe.  Is that the neighborhood just north of the marina?  (another clue).

Wrong house.

[Conan71]

Just about all the houses on the canals off Los Olas in FLL are big and have boats in front of them.  How on earth to tell one from another?  I wouldn't be able to unless I'd been there via water or recognize it in relationship to a cross-roads off one of the main streets.

[Double A]

This thread is for trashing Randi Miller. Let's start another for Queen Kathy bashing.

[USRufnex]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

OK...bear poop. Define what a "resident" is for us.

The election board says it is any US citizen who "intends to reside in Oklahoma."

The Oklahoma divorce courts define it as "an actual resident, in good faith, for six months."

The Oklahoma State regents for higher education define residency as "A resident of Oklahoma is someone who has lived in the state continuously for at least 12 months and whose domicile is in Oklahoma."

The Oklahoma tax commission defines a resident as "a person domiciled in the state for the entire tax year."

Stop saying stupid stuff. You don't know any details and are trying to smear her with innuendo.

Go away and hibernate.

First, please try to be nicer.  You are really hurting my tender feelings.  Why SO MUCH anger?  Think nice thoughts, like:  

May you have a nice day.

There, feeling better?

Uh, you left out what the City Charter says about eligibility of candidates, and eligibility of remaining in office.

What's it say?

Either Kathy Taylor is a resident of:

Florida,

or

Oklahoma.

CANNOT be both.  NEVER.

Intent of residency is the heart of Voter Registration.

However, it just ain't the same as legal residency to run for Mayor of Tulsa, or remain Mayor.

She's has Florida residency, for Income Tax and Estate Planning purposes.  It's obvious.

That's why she elected NOT to draw a salary.  

If she draws a salary from the city, she must fill out a W-2.  

If she fills out a W-2, the address listed is the state for which her employer takes out State Tax (if any, which there is NOT any state income tax in Florida).  

But if she lists her Florida address, she cannot be Mayor.  Mayors of Tulsa MUST BE a resident of Tulsa.

Kathy Taylor therefore does NOT qualify to remain as Mayor under the rules of the City Charter, because she is probably NOT a legal resident of Tulsa.

She is a legal resident, I suspect, of FLORIDA.

She and Mr. Lobeck could solve that little problem by releasing their latest Federal Income Tax Form 1040.

We saw the tip of the iceberg in their residency quandry earlier, when they double-claimed homestead exemption in both OK and FL, and since Chatty Kathy had become Mayor, decided to buy themselves out of the RESIDENCY problem by paying another $100K to Florida for breaking their state law concerning Homestead exemption.  

While OK allows you to claim homestead in more than one state, FL does NOT.

And, then there's that little matter of voting in TWO states for President back in 2004......

That's CRAZY.

[:O]

That's gotta be the stupidest non-starter fake-issue I've ever heard of... only fit for .... wait for it...... CONSIPIRACY THEORISTS...

Taylor may be a lot of things... but stupid enough to be a political figure who votes in TWO states in one presidential election... no, she ain't that stupid.

I voted back in 2001 with Oklahoma registration because I lived here at the time... while I was still registered in Chicago, all it would take is some 70-year old election volunteer with bad hearing and eyesight to check the wrong box and suddenly... presto, change-o... I fraudulantly voted in both Illinois and Oklahoma...

But, I don't know about Florida... are there many elderly folks there??? [}:)] or do you still cling to the hope that Taylor was stupid enough to knowingly vote in two different states for the same presidential candidate??? [:O]

Non-issue.  Please move on.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

OK...bear poop. Define what a "resident" is for us.

The election board says it is any US citizen who "intends to reside in Oklahoma."

The Oklahoma divorce courts define it as "an actual resident, in good faith, for six months."

The Oklahoma State regents for higher education define residency as "A resident of Oklahoma is someone who has lived in the state continuously for at least 12 months and whose domicile is in Oklahoma."

The Oklahoma tax commission defines a resident as "a person domiciled in the state for the entire tax year."

Stop saying stupid stuff. You don't know any details and are trying to smear her with innuendo.

Go away and hibernate.

First, please try to be nicer.  You are really hurting my tender feelings.  Why SO MUCH anger?  Think nice thoughts, like:  

May you have a nice day.

There, feeling better?

Uh, you left out what the City Charter says about eligibility of candidates, and eligibility of remaining in office.

What's it say?

Either Kathy Taylor is a resident of:

Florida,

or

Oklahoma.

CANNOT be both.  NEVER.

Intent of residency is the heart of Voter Registration.

However, it just ain't the same as legal residency to run for Mayor of Tulsa, or remain Mayor.

She's has Florida residency, for Income Tax and Estate Planning purposes.  It's obvious.

That's why she elected NOT to draw a salary.  

If she draws a salary from the city, she must fill out a W-2.  

If she fills out a W-2, the address listed is the state for which her employer takes out State Tax (if any, which there is NOT any state income tax in Florida).  

But if she lists her Florida address, she cannot be Mayor.  Mayors of Tulsa MUST BE a resident of Tulsa.

Kathy Taylor therefore does NOT qualify to remain as Mayor under the rules of the City Charter, because she is probably NOT a legal resident of Tulsa.

She is a legal resident, I suspect, of FLORIDA.

She and Mr. Lobeck could solve that little problem by releasing their latest Federal Income Tax Form 1040.

We saw the tip of the iceberg in their residency quandry earlier, when they double-claimed homestead exemption in both OK and FL, and since Chatty Kathy had become Mayor, decided to buy themselves out of the RESIDENCY problem by paying another $100K to Florida for breaking their state law concerning Homestead exemption.  

While OK allows you to claim homestead in more than one state, FL does NOT.

And, then there's that little matter of voting in TWO states for President back in 2004......

That's CRAZY.

[:O]

That's gotta be the stupidest non-starter fake-issue I've ever heard of... only fit for .... wait for it...... CONSIPIRACY THEORISTS...

Taylor may be a lot of things... but stupid enough to be a political figure who votes in TWO states in one presidential election... no, she ain't that stupid.

I voted back in 2001 with Oklahoma registration because I lived here at the time... while I was still registered in Chicago, all it would take is some 70-year old election volunteer with bad hearing and eyesight to check the wrong box and suddenly... presto, change-o... I fraudulantly voted in both Illinois and Oklahoma...

But, I don't know about Florida... are there many elderly folks there??? [}:)] or do you still cling to the hope that Taylor was stupid enough to knowingly vote in two different states for the same presidential candidate??? [:O]

Non-issue.  Please move on.

THANK you, Mrs. Lobeck.