Open the BOk Center with the Tulsa Sound

[perspicuity85]

What could be a better fit for Tulsa's "new kind of energy?"  J.J. Cale, Eric Clapton, and Leon Russell.  Maybe add in some of those who were influenced by the Tulsa Sound.  I happened to stumble upon a Clapton fan club site and read about the recently made documentary film: To Tulsa and Back: On Tour with J.J. Cale.    The site even claims that Mark Knopfler of the Dire Straits based his sound on J.J. Cale.

There is no music more unique to Tulsa than the Tulsa Sound.  It is a musical manifestation of the cross-cultural influence present in the city.  

People always have a hard time with Tulsa's identity.  Midwest, South, or Southwest? Country, jazz, blues, or rock?
The answer is: ALL OF THE ABOVE.

[Rico]

[izmophonik]

Tulsa doesn't have a sound.  It's an urban legend or some sort of myth.  Tulsa has artists that have been successful like Bread, GAP Band, Leon Russell, The Hanson boys etc.. but Tulsa has no sound.  You'll never hear a piece of music and go "Oh, that's the Tulsa sound".  It doesn't exist.

Unfortunately a lot of people buy in to this idea and I'm afraid our BOk Center will be opened by a bunch of boring nobody's that happen to be from Tulsa.

/bored with the Tulsa small town crap

[Renaissance]

You just showed your ignorance about rock history.  The "Tulsa Sound" came from a small but influential school of performers.  It's not necessarily an ongoing movement, but the artists are still around and it's something to be proud of regarding the city's place in rock history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tulsa_Sound

And as long as Clapton would come and make sure the seats would be filled, that idea would be AWESOME.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

Tulsa doesn't have a sound.  It's an urban legend or some sort of myth.  Tulsa has artists that have been successful like Bread, GAP Band, Leon Russell, The Hanson boys etc.. but Tulsa has no sound.  You'll never hear a piece of music and go "Oh, that's the Tulsa sound".  It doesn't exist.

Unfortunately a lot of people buy in to this idea and I'm afraid our BOk Center will be opened by a bunch of boring nobody's that happen to be from Tulsa.

/bored with the Tulsa small town crap

Pardon izmo's ignorance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tulsa_Sound

[izmophonik]

...Wiki?  You've got to be kidding me.  Sorry, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Renaissance]

There's no "agreement" here, dude.  There exists in this world a school of rock musicianship known as the "Tulsa Sound."  It's not famous on its own but had undeniable influence on multiple famous musicians.  I'm not sure who to believe: you, or multiple rock critics who make reference to it.  I think I'll go with the rock critics on this one.

http://musicmp3.ru/review_jj-cale-eric-clapton__the-road-to-escondido.html

http://www.events-in-music.com/eric-clapton-does-jj-cales-cocaine-after-midnight.html

Now you know!  Get on Google and educate yourself further.  Better yet, buy some J.J. Cale and enjoy yourself while listening to it.

[izmophonik]

I'm sorry guys.  You can reference critics and wiki using that term all you want.  Just because some musicians from Tulsa happend to hook up with Clapton or some tulsa Musician went to L.A. and "made it" dosn't make a "sound".  I'm a musician and have been for the last 20 years.  If I went to New York and hooked up with a group of guys that happened to be big I wouldn't claim any sort of Tulsa sound.  I just can't follow the logic.  Musicians are always wandering around this state and country. Where they come from doesn't really justify coining some meaningless term and trying to make a big deal out of it.

[Renaissance]

Yeah, you're right--that damn Bob Wills made up "western swing," and we all know that's just a fancy name for old country.  "Red dirt" is just rocking country that somebody calls "red dirt" and that sound doesn't really exist either.  Or "punk" for that matter--it's just three fast chords played by some punks from England, but that doesn't make it a "punk sound."  /sarcasm

But seriously, the key to any genre is a unique sound that sets it apart.  If you claim that what's called Tulsa Sound is not actually a unique sub-genre that combines rock, folk, rockabilly and blues, but rather a meaningless compilation of artists based on loose geographical ties, that's your right.  But just because you can't hear it doesn't mean it's not there.

[izmophonik]

A genre is one thing.  There are many genre's and some are attributed to regions of the U.S. as it's origin.  Saying that a particular and distinct sound comes from Tulsa is another and it's just not true.

[sgrizzle]

Okay, so we'll ignore professional reviews, musicians, and online references. Nashville, Memphis, New Orleans, and Seattle also have no sound.

Some musicians from Tulsa didn't hook up with Clapton, he hooked up with Tulsa.

[izmophonik]

A genre is one thing.  There are many genre's and some are attributed to regions of the U.S. as it's origin.  Saying that a particular and distinct sound comes from Tulsa is another and it's just not true.

[perspicuity85]

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

A genre is one thing.  There are many genre's and some are attributed to regions of the U.S. as it's origin.  Saying that a particular and distinct sound comes from Tulsa is another and it's just not true.

http://www.jjcale.net/tulsasound.php
http://www.answers.com/topic/the-tulsa-sound
http://www.seattlefilm.org/festival/film/detail.aspx?id=20350&fid=13
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/Story.aspx?storyID=8543

izmophonik, I guess you're just smarter than everyone else!

I'll be sure to call the Seattle film festival this afternoon to correct them.

[izmophonik]

I never said I was smarter than anyone else.  I just don't believe in the Tulsa sound.  Nothing more, nothing less.  

BTW, the Seattle Film Festival interviewer used quotes for "Tulsa Sound".  That means they aren't validating it's existance by using the term.  They are quoting the interviewee..that's all.  If Cale said it was the "Muskogee Sound" they would have posted that too.  Nice try though.

[TheArtist]

I like the idea of the "opening act" not being one act but a group of well known acts getting together, having a great time and letting the music rip.  I think it would be fantastic to have something like that at the same time they were doing D-Fest. Perhaps on the first night of the D-fest run or as the grand finale. "Synergying" the BOK center and D-fest to get even more national attention for both.  Could be one heck of a party. [8D]