God spoke to me....

[Ed W]

...and said that the ice storm was His punishment for not voting in the river tax.  Or maybe it was for all of us dissin' Richard Roberts.  I'm not sure.  He was mumbling a bit.

But one thing he was absolutely clear about was the up-coming bill on religious freedom in the schools.  If that's not approved, He said He'll use His Noodly Appendage to rain toads upon our heads.

Ramen.

[RecycleMichael]

You have the wrong God.

Mine uses locusts instead of toads.

[cannon_fodder]

My gods are sending a snow storm to punish those that have come to help the wicked.

So sayth the lord.

PS.  why do religions still have God/Prophets speak in old English?  I knoweth not why that 'tis done.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

My gods are sending a snow storm to punish those that have come to help the wicked.

So sayth the lord.

PS.  why do religions still have God/Prophets speak in old English?  I knoweth not why that 'tis done.

yours still speaks in old english?  Mine switched to pig latin, but said he will revert to english if they pass that Son of 1804 bill next year.

BTW, I have a load of toads in my backyard frozen solid if anyone needs something to burn in their fireplace.

I think it would be good PR if ORU would send their 900 ft Jesus around to pick up all the limbs.

[FOTD]

You guys can be pretty funny when you are not beating peeps up.....

BTW, what bill on religious freedom?

[Ed W]

http://www.okhouse.gov/okhousemedia/pressroom.aspx?NewsID=1351


Reynolds to File Religious Freedom Bill for Oklahoma Students
            

Contact: State Rep. Mike Reynolds
Capitol: (405) 557-7337

OKLAHOMA CITY (November 26, 2007) – State Rep. Mike Reynolds plans to file legislation creating a Religious Viewpoints Anti-Discrimination Act that will create a level playing field for religious and secular expression in Oklahoma's public schools.

"Oklahoma families need to know their children will not be persecuted for exercising their constitutional rights and expressing religious beliefs at school," said Reynolds, R-Oklahoma City. "While students and guest speakers can't use state resources to proselytize, they have every right to express their personal beliefs and should be given the same protections afforded non-religious or even anti-religious officials."

............

So the way I see it, it's a get-out-of-physics-class-free card if you claim that the results of an experiment were changed by the Flying Spaghetti Monster's invisible Noodly Appendage.

They tried something like this in Pennsylvania years ago, and it met near-universal acclaim until someone pointed out that the Neo-Druid Dead Puppy Cult would get equal treatment in the schools.  The fundies behind it were livid, but they never thought through the consequences.

[grahambino]

This is truly fantastic news for my floundering religion...Futurenetics.
You have no idea of the discrimination I faced in those Futurenetics-less public schools... finally someone's gonna speak up for me & my mainstream views.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Ed W

http://www.okhouse.gov/okhousemedia/pressroom.aspx?NewsID=1351


Reynolds to File Religious Freedom Bill for Oklahoma Students
            

Contact: State Rep. Mike Reynolds
Capitol: (405) 557-7337

OKLAHOMA CITY (November 26, 2007) – State Rep. Mike Reynolds plans to file legislation creating a Religious Viewpoints Anti-Discrimination Act that will create a level playing field for religious and secular expression in Oklahoma's public schools.

"Oklahoma families need to know their children will not be persecuted for exercising their constitutional rights and expressing religious beliefs at school," said Reynolds, R-Oklahoma City. "While students and guest speakers can't use state resources to proselytize, they have every right to express their personal beliefs and should be given the same protections afforded non-religious or even anti-religious officials."

............

So the way I see it, it's a get-out-of-physics-class-free card if you claim that the results of an experiment were changed by the Flying Spaghetti Monster's invisible Noodly Appendage.

They tried something like this in Pennsylvania years ago, and it met near-universal acclaim until someone pointed out that the Neo-Druid Dead Puppy Cult would get equal treatment in the schools.  The fundies behind it were livid, but they never thought through the consequences.

I have found over the years that Bible-believing Christians are oppressive and generally control freaks. Therefore, when the issue of religious beliefs of candidates comes up I pay close attention. Frankly, I am not impressed with those who favor organized religious hocus-pocus over scientific theory and established fact.

If it comes down to it, I will vote for an atheist, a pagan, or a Wiccan over a Bible-believing Christian any day of the week. It is important that any leader who is worth their salt keep their personal religious beliefs out of their professional responsibilities. I don't want a president who thinks they need to proselytize to the masses. I want a president who adheres to a sense of values that exhibits respect and dignity for all others -- no matter their religion, their sex, their ethnicity -- and one who will promote the betterment of all humankind.

Who is more likely to do that? A secular humanist, an atheist or an adherent of organized religion? I'll place my bet on the humanist or atheist any day of the week.

Keep our public schools free from religious interference.

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD
I'll place my bet on the humanist or atheist any day of the week.

You can bet on these things?

Is it like a horse race or more like a bingo?

If you win, do you yell "Pagan!?"

[Ed W]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD


Frankly, I am not impressed with those who favor organized religious hocus-pocus over scientific theory and established fact.

I had a physics instructor long ago who was a very devout man.  He saw the contradictions between science and faith, and said that to a man of faith, those contradictions were unimportant.  Faith itself is a mystery and none of us should presume to know the mind of God.  He was humble, never trying to press his beliefs on anyone.

So I think it's possible for faith and scientific curiosity to co-exist in the same brain.  Georgie Ann Geyer wrote something about it once, saying that faith, science, and the artistic process all share a common language, yet the same words seem to have differing meanings for each of them.  Science cannot adequately describe art or faith, just as art cannot depict faith or science.  Likewise, faith   falls short at defining science and art.

[cannon_fodder]

An friend brought a date with her out to dinner one night.  He was a research scientist for Pfizer and a baptist minister.  When the topic of what he did came up he said both things - and I asked him how they related to each other...

He told  me (essential, this was a few years back) science confirms that God is real because everything works out so perfectly.  And God proves that he is superior to science because everything we learn only extends the vastness of things that we do not.  Thus his scientific endeavors serve to both confirm his faith and respect for God.

I thought that was a very interesting and well thought out response, and neglected to raise the question of biblical scientific inaccuracy .[]

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by Ed W

http://www.okhouse.gov/okhousemedia/pressroom.aspx?NewsID=1351


Reynolds to File Religious Freedom Bill for Oklahoma Students
            

Contact: State Rep. Mike Reynolds
Capitol: (405) 557-7337

OKLAHOMA CITY (November 26, 2007) – State Rep. Mike Reynolds plans to file legislation creating a Religious Viewpoints Anti-Discrimination Act that will create a level playing field for religious and secular expression in Oklahoma's public schools.

"Oklahoma families need to know their children will not be persecuted for exercising their constitutional rights and expressing religious beliefs at school," said Reynolds, R-Oklahoma City. "While students and guest speakers can't use state resources to proselytize, they have every right to express their personal beliefs and should be given the same protections afforded non-religious or even anti-religious officials."

............

So the way I see it, it's a get-out-of-physics-class-free card if you claim that the results of an experiment were changed by the Flying Spaghetti Monster's invisible Noodly Appendage.

They tried something like this in Pennsylvania years ago, and it met near-universal acclaim until someone pointed out that the Neo-Druid Dead Puppy Cult would get equal treatment in the schools.  The fundies behind it were livid, but they never thought through the consequences.

I have found over the years that Bible-believing Christians are oppressive and generally control freaks. Therefore, when the issue of religious beliefs of candidates comes up I pay close attention. Frankly, I am not impressed with those who favor organized religious hocus-pocus over scientific theory and established fact.

If it comes down to it, I will vote for an atheist, a pagan, or a Wiccan over a Bible-believing Christian any day of the week. It is important that any leader who is worth their salt keep their personal religious beliefs out of their professional responsibilities. I don't want a president who thinks they need to proselytize to the masses. I want a president who adheres to a sense of values that exhibits respect and dignity for all others -- no matter their religion, their sex, their ethnicity -- and one who will promote the betterment of all humankind.

Who is more likely to do that? A secular humanist, an atheist or an adherent of organized religion? I'll place my bet on the humanist or atheist any day of the week.

Keep our public schools free from religious interference.

Amen.

[In2neon]

I thought that was a very interesting and well thought out response, and neglected to raise the question of biblical scientific inaccuracy


I wasn't aware of any scientific inaccuracies in the Bible ...

If one beleives that God is who he says he is, then the science of our realm (a speck compared to Him) shouldn't be too much for Him to alter at His will or override temporarily...
The law of gravity is not compromised in the least when the law of lift takes over and a massive jet plane that no man could lift flies seemingly effortlessly...

[TulsaFan-inTexas]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

You have the wrong God.

Mine uses locusts instead of toads.

That's funny RM.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

You have the wrong God.

Mine uses locusts instead of toads.

Ed's God uses meatballs... And pirates...

Arrrrrrrrr....