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« on: December 23, 2007, 01:24:09 am » |
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2007, 01:48:30 am » |
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Uh Oh.
Tip of the iceberg?
Betcha lots of companies were doing this before the state legislature deportation law took effect.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2007, 08:54:37 am » |
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Without getting too deeply into the illegal immigrant question, I'd like to point at that this seems to be encouraging evidence of "enforcing the laws already on the books." And also, IMO, aiming enforcement in the direction that it will do the most good . . . reducing demand for cheap labor by targeting businesses that hire illegals.
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Conan71
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2007, 08:56:57 am » |
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Bet there are still plenty of companies doing it now, just not as rampant as it was.
This illustrates precisely one of the problems with illegal immigrants: take advantage of tax-funded services and contribute little or nothing back into the tax pool which funds those services.
Speaking of illegal immigrants, what ever happened to Hometown? Did he finally high-tail it back to California due to all these "hateful" new laws?
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2007, 09:34:52 am » |
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Originally posted by Conan71
This illustrates precisely one of the problems with illegal immigrants: take advantage of tax-funded services and contribute little or nothing back into the tax pool which funds those services.
But ya know, they actually ARE contributing some taxes into the system, and depending on the situation, they might very well be contributing taxes and not being able to take advantage of them because of their status. They're contributing to all the consumption taxes out there (sales taxes, etc), and might be contributing to employment taxes (if they're registered with fake soc security #'s) and possibly even income or property taxes depending. This was one counter example I found out there in Google land. |
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Double A
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2007, 10:35:34 am » |
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Originally posted by Conan71
Speaking of illegal immigrants, what ever happened to Hometown? Did he finally high-tail it back to California due to all these "hateful" new laws?
One can only hope so. |
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2007, 06:39:34 pm » |
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Originally posted by Double A
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Originally posted by Conan71
Speaking of illegal immigrants, what ever happened to Hometown? Did he finally high-tail it back to California due to all these "hateful" new laws?
One can only hope so.
Since there isn't a draft, we know he hasn't run off to Canada. |
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Someone get Hoss a pacifier.
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Hometown
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2007, 07:40:22 am » |
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When my parents divorced I lived with my father in Dallas. Dallas is my second hometown. We were in Dallas' Oak Cliff neighborhood three weeks ago looking at real estate. It's an energetic, diverse neighborhood that reminds me of San Francisco's Mission District. I can buy a house in Oak Cliff comparable to my home in Tulsa for the same price. Then I can go to work doing the same job and make $30,000 more than I do in Tulsa. Not to mention the fact that I've always had a lot of fun in Dallas. Our other option now is to stop working and live in Vera Cruz, Mexico or the Rio Dulce area of Guatemala. When we were driving back from Dallas I noticed that the creepy religious billboards and bad asphalt roads started at the border. Having said that I'm still struggling with letting go of our house here in Tulsa. I love our house and neighborhood. But I have been very dissapointed with Oklahomans in general. It's the hate in their hearts that gets me. Meanwhile, I still have some things to work out with Tulsa. I'll keep my fans posted.
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2007, 08:38:44 am » |
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At the risk of sounding extremely negative... are you going to change your signature to something more apt, like "Oklahoman's are hateful, I'm outta here?"
I understand your concerns, but I think MOST people are not so extreme as to being truely hateful of anyone. Some would seem to hate homosexuals or immigrants and so on... but I would not think it is a majority, but a vocal minority. And unfortunately, if that vocal minority drives off much of the outspoken of the usually quite majority - they are given total control.
Not sure if that makes sense or not, or really matters. But I'd hate to see someone leave because they disagree with a vocal minority, especially when I tend to agree with him.
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2007, 12:22:54 pm » |
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Originally posted by Hometown
It's the hate in their hearts that gets me.
Hey, as long as you are around I'll always leave a little just for you. Wouldn't want you to go without ya know.[}:)] |
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Double A
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 11:12:28 pm » |
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Originally posted by Hometown
When my parents divorced I lived with my father in Dallas. Dallas is my second hometown. We were in Dallas' Oak Cliff neighborhood three weeks ago looking at real estate. It's an energetic, diverse neighborhood that reminds me of San Francisco's Mission District. I can buy a house in Oak Cliff comparable to my home in Tulsa for the same price. Then I can go to work doing the same job and make $30,000 more than I do in Tulsa. Not to mention the fact that I've always had a lot of fun in Dallas. Our other option now is to stop working and live in Vera Cruz, Mexico or the Rio Dulce area of Guatemala. When we were driving back from Dallas I noticed that the creepy religious billboards and bad asphalt roads started at the border. Having said that I'm still struggling with letting go of our house here in Tulsa. I love our house and neighborhood. But I have been very dissapointed with Oklahomans in general. It's the hate in their hearts that gets me. Meanwhile, I still have some things to work out with Tulsa. I'll keep my fans posted.
I'd rather die an Okie, than live as a Texican. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2007, 12:00:23 am » |
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Originally posted by Hometown
When my parents divorced I lived with my father in Dallas. Dallas is my second hometown. We were in Dallas' Oak Cliff neighborhood three weeks ago looking at real estate. It's an energetic, diverse neighborhood that reminds me of San Francisco's Mission District. I can buy a house in Oak Cliff comparable to my home in Tulsa for the same price. Then I can go to work doing the same job and make $30,000 more than I do in Tulsa. Not to mention the fact that I've always had a lot of fun in Dallas. Our other option now is to stop working and live in Vera Cruz, Mexico or the Rio Dulce area of Guatemala. When we were driving back from Dallas I noticed that the creepy religious billboards and bad asphalt roads started at the border. Having said that I'm still struggling with letting go of our house here in Tulsa. I love our house and neighborhood. But I have been very dissapointed with Oklahomans in general. It's the hate in their hearts that gets me. Meanwhile, I still have some things to work out with Tulsa. I'll keep my fans posted.
I started to call you crazy for moving to Oak Cliff. 10 to 15 years ago that was like living in Compton. I'd forgotten the gay community has started to gentrify the area. I'm sure you will be back to tell us how great and liberal life is in Dallas on a regular basis. Hey, you still have to come trench my postage stamp size yard with SGrizzle before you move away. [  ] |
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2008, 09:47:41 am » |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hometown
When my parents divorced I lived with my father in Dallas. Dallas is my second hometown. We were in Dallas' Oak Cliff neighborhood three weeks ago looking at real estate. It's an energetic, diverse neighborhood that reminds me of San Francisco's Mission District. I can buy a house in Oak Cliff comparable to my home in Tulsa for the same price. Then I can go to work doing the same job and make $30,000 more than I do in Tulsa. Not to mention the fact that I've always had a lot of fun in Dallas. Our other option now is to stop working and live in Vera Cruz, Mexico or the Rio Dulce area of Guatemala. When we were driving back from Dallas I noticed that the creepy religious billboards and bad asphalt roads started at the border. Having said that I'm still struggling with letting go of our house here in Tulsa. I love our house and neighborhood. But I have been very dissapointed with Oklahomans in general. It's the hate in their hearts that gets me. Meanwhile, I still have some things to work out with Tulsa. I'll keep my fans posted.
I hope you're not moving to South Oak Cliff. That is a DANGEROUS part of town. I live in DFW and hear a lot about that place; it's a haven for criminal activity. |
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