PSA: You can't drive on the inner shoulder of 169

[inteller]

I don't care how mad you are or whatever road rage excuse you have, when you drive on the inner shoulder of 169 you will abruptly come to a stop and die when you find the barrier wall.  If you dart back out on the road to avoid your deserved death and hurt someone in the process I'll track you down and kill you myself.

Oh, and PT stands for Piece o' Trash in PT Cruiser

[sgrizzle]

Someone needs a hug.

And yes, shoulders are not meant for traveling.

[swake]

I always picture Inteller kind of as Milton Widdams from Office Space, but instead of burning the building down over cake and a stapler he gets his inner aggression out here

[Renaissance]

He can be kind of funny if you aren't the target of his bile.

[Ed W]

Oklahoma law says that shoulders are for temporary emergency use by vehicles.  If you're talking about our ubiquitous local bicyclist and his trailer, he's probably legally in the right since Oklahoma law defines bicycles as devices rather than vehicles.  Then again, the law muddies the issue with this:

"Every person riding a bicycle or motorized scooter upon a roadway shall be granted all of the rights and shall be subject to all of the duties applicable to the driver of a vehicle by this title, except as to special regulations in this article and except to those provisions of this title which by their nature can have no application."

Again, the shoulder is not part of the roadway.

"(a) Roadway. That portion of a highway improved, designed or ordinarily used for vehicular travel, exclusive of the shoulder. In the event a highway includes two or more separate roadways the term "roadway" as used herein shall refer to any such roadway separately but not to all such roadways collectively."

"(b) Shoulder. The portion of the roadway contiguous with the traveled way for accommodation of stopped vehicles, for emergency use, and for lateral support of base and surface courses."

It may be a real PITA, but it's apparently legal.

...and no, I'm not an attorney.  I just watch them on TV.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Ed W

Oklahoma law says that shoulders are for temporary emergency use by vehicles.  If you're talking about our ubiquitous local bicyclist and his trailer, he's probably legally in the right since Oklahoma law defines bicycles as devices rather than vehicles.  Then again, the law muddies the issue with this:

"Every person riding a bicycle or motorized scooter upon a roadway shall be granted all of the rights and shall be subject to all of the duties applicable to the driver of a vehicle by this title, except as to special regulations in this article and except to those provisions of this title which by their nature can have no application."

Again, the shoulder is not part of the roadway.

"(a) Roadway. That portion of a highway improved, designed or ordinarily used for vehicular travel, exclusive of the shoulder. In the event a highway includes two or more separate roadways the term "roadway" as used herein shall refer to any such roadway separately but not to all such roadways collectively."

"(b) Shoulder. The portion of the roadway contiguous with the traveled way for accommodation of stopped vehicles, for emergency use, and for lateral support of base and surface courses."

It may be a real PITA, but it's apparently legal.

...and no, I'm not an attorney.  I just watch them on TV.

no, this was a nut job in a blue PT Cruiser.  They went barreling down what little bit of inner shoulder there was between the 51st/61st st exits going south....then when they ran out of room they swerved back in traffic, then back to the inside and stopped.  Then the nutjob stopped all traffic and proceeded to sit there and burn out the tires (I didn't know you could do that in a PT).  I was waiting for the person to pop out with a gun GTA style, but they didn't give me the reason I needed to pop one off on the idiot.

If you are out there reading this bud, you don't know how close you came to becoming a statistic.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by inteller


no, this was a nut job in a blue PT Cruiser.  They went barreling down what little bit of inner shoulder there was between the 51st/61st st exits going south....then when they ran out of room they swerved back in traffic, then back to the inside and stopped.  Then the nutjob stopped all traffic and proceeded to sit there and burn out the tires (I didn't know you could do that in a PT).  I was waiting for the person to pop out with a gun GTA style, but they didn't give me the reason I needed to pop one off on the idiot.

If you are out there reading this bud, you don't know how close you came to becoming a statistic.

Might've been a GT Cruiser. They have superchargers for no apparent reason.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by inteller


no, this was a nut job in a blue PT Cruiser.  They went barreling down what little bit of inner shoulder there was between the 51st/61st st exits going south....then when they ran out of room they swerved back in traffic, then back to the inside and stopped.  Then the nutjob stopped all traffic and proceeded to sit there and burn out the tires (I didn't know you could do that in a PT).  I was waiting for the person to pop out with a gun GTA style, but they didn't give me the reason I needed to pop one off on the idiot.

If you are out there reading this bud, you don't know how close you came to becoming a statistic.

Might've been a GT Cruiser. They have superchargers for no apparent reason.

its actually a turbo, but they are quite fast for such a small 180hp engine.  Its really quite easy to spin the tires in one that has the turbo.

[Radar]

Those are the ugliest cars ever. When I see one, I immediately think "middle aged fat female who colors her hair blonde because she hates being fat and old, but can't stop eating brownies, and will always be fat, but can color her hair, so she can make herself believe she doesn't look old."

Whewww, long sentence, had to take a breath.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Radar

Those are the ugliest cars ever. When I see one, I immediately think "middle aged fat female who colors her hair blonde because she hates being fat and old, but can't stop eating brownies, and will always be fat, but can color her hair, so she can make herself believe she doesn't look old."

Whewww, long sentence, had to take a breath.

OMG, post of THE YEAR!  That rocks!

[sauerkraut]

Could of been someone on drugs or an illegal alien. I would not say that person was your average run of the mill Tulsa driver. Tulsa drivers are for the most part not that bad.

[waterboy]

I go by that area daily and hadn't noticed the left lane shoulder that suddenly narrows then ends around 61st.  What time of day? I'll look for the little bugger. I'm quite good at sublimated aggression that forces selfish, aggressive, bully drivers to suddenly realize they've been had. (Are you reading this dark, old Acura driver? You were my b**tch!)

Their only recourse is waving a finger and screaming silently as though I would even appear to notice. Woe to the selfish driver who fails to display common courtesy on my route.[]

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

Could of been someone on drugs or an illegal alien. I would not say that person was your average run of the mill Tulsa driver. Tulsa drivers are for the most part not that bad.

except when it comes to 4-way stops, running red lights and not staying out of the fast lane when going 5mph UNDER the speed limit.  Other then that, they are decent.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

Could of been someone on drugs or an illegal alien. I would not say that person was your average run of the mill Tulsa driver. Tulsa drivers are for the most part not that bad.

pancakes drugs are you on?  Tulsa has some of the worst drivers EVAR!  On my way back into town on holiday my trip was just fine until I go to tulsa and then a**hole after a**hole started taking up the lanes and doing what tulsa drivers do best...drive like idiots.

[Ed W]

I have to differ on that.  Tulsa drivers are model citizens compared to those behind the wheel in NYC, Seattle, Miami, or god-help-you Atlanta.  They're only nutty here when it snows.