District 4 - 2008 City Council Elections

[TURobY]

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

I'm saying the locations that were most deserving of preservation are long-gone....

I don't think anyone disagreed with you on this point. But you continue...

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TU just ran the Metro Diner out of town in a dump-truck.

Was the Metro Diner considered historic? If so, why? I guess that is another topic...

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What is left to preserve? The Golden Driller??

If you truly believe that there is nothing left in Tulsa worth preserving, then I will duly note that in my pros/cons list of condidates. I just wanted further clarification so that I knew as much about each candidate as possible. Not trying to give you a hard time... []

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

quote:Originally posted by Double A

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

quote:Originally posted by Double A

Rocky Frisco is just another perennial joke candidate out for attention.

You may be the only person in Tulsa who thinks I'm a joke candidate. At least nobody has ever suggested such a thing to my face. Why the Hell would I need attention? I'm on TV about once a week doing that Clapton gig. I can't go buy a shot of Jaeger without some drunk wanting to tell me his life story because he thinks I'm famous. No thanks, I have all of the fame and attention I want, in fact, way too much. I really resent your sleazy, gratuitously snide comment. I have been getting up way too early, doing radio stuff and meetings and missing sleep in order to do this campaign. My intention is to offer my services as a libertarian and Constitutionalist.

Which one of my opponents are you shilling for?

Anarchy sounds good to me too, until someone asks "who'd fix the sewers?". Or if the Rednecks would just play kings of the neighborhood. Paul Tay is a more serious candidate than you are. BTW, I am a registered voter in D4. Say Mr. Libertarian, do you support ending the prohibition on illegal drugs, being a strict constitutional libertarian and all?

I will answer your question with one of mine:

Has the war on drugs actually kept the illegal transactions from taking place, or has it acted as a system of price supports to make absolutely sure that the most evil humans on the planet continue to get untold wealth they can use to subvert, corrupt and destroy our way of life?

The "War on Drugs" has much in common with "Operation Iraqi Freedom" and "The Patriot Act," in that the name is not the reality.

But you knew that, didn't you?javascript:insertsmilie('[]')
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BTW, who are you?

I don't disagree that the War on Drugs is big business. Answering a question with a question is the hallmark of a status quo politician. Why not stand loud and proud for what you believe in no uncertain terms?

Who am I? I am one of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Maybe you can get FOTD's parents to move into D4 so he will be able to vote for you?

[Rocky Frisco]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

I don't disagree that the War on Drugs is big business. Answering a question with a question is the hallmark of a status quo politician. Why not stand loud and proud for what you believe in no uncertain terms?

Who said anything about "Big Business?" It's a filter that funnels inconceivable wealth into the hands of the most evil, poisonous forces in the world. Answering a stupid question with a smart question is one of the methods used by teachers and philosopher-kings throughout history when dealing with such as yourself. If you would read a non-fiction book or two instead of spending so much time with TV and comics and computer-games, you would know this.

Who am I? I am one of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

That's odd, I see millions just like you spawning and infesting the newsgroups, all proclaiming your glorious uniqueness, all celebrating your anonymity. It doesn't take a great deal of character or personal worth to throw little bits of filth from behind a dumpster.

Maybe you can get FOTD's parents to move into D4 so he will be able to vote for you?

Plink! There's another one!

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

quote:Originally posted by Double A

I don't disagree that the War on Drugs is big business. Answering a question with a question is the hallmark of a status quo politician. Why not stand loud and proud for what you believe in no uncertain terms?

Who said anything about "Big Business?" It's a filter that funnels inconceivable wealth into the hands of the most evil, poisonous forces in the world. Answering a stupid question with a smart question is one of the methods used by teachers and philosopher-kings throughout history when dealing with such as yourself. If you would read a non-fiction book or two instead of spending so much time with TV and comics and computer-games, you would know this.

Who am I? I am one of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

That's odd, I see millions just like you spawning and infesting the newsgroups, all proclaiming your glorious uniqueness, all celebrating your anonymity. It doesn't take a great deal of character or personal worth to throw little bits of filth from behind a dumpster.

Maybe you can get FOTD's parents to move into D4 so he will be able to vote for you?

Plink! There's another one!

Now you are a Zen master. Make up your mind, already. I guess you know your own scent when you smell it. Like I said earlier, you are a joke candidate.

[waterboy]

Hey, Rocky...who does he have to be? And what kind of question is that anyway? Who the $#** are you?

Taking stands on national issues at a local level like drug laws, middle east conflicts, and choice hasn't gotten Tulsa very far in the past. It just isn't in the purview of a city councilor with a strong mayor. Maybe you could tell me how being a vocal libertarian is going to get city work done. These councilors are managers of the city's business...not charismatic policy makers. The more boring they are, the more likely they're taking care of business.

Just another "plink" in D4.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

quote:Originally posted by Double A

Rocky Frisco is just another perennial joke candidate out for attention.

You may be the only person in Tulsa who thinks I'm a joke candidate.

I thought this deserved an opinion poll:

Tulsa Now Rocky Frisco Opinion Poll

[Rocky Frisco]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

Hey, Rocky...who does he have to be? And what kind of question is that anyway? Who the $#** are you?

My name is on my comments and I'm in the phone book. I'm not hiding. The gratuitous insults carry less weight when they're from those afraid to be identified. The newsgroups are bursting with inane, insignificant carping from anonymous  juveniles. Looks like this tendency is spilling over into the forums here. Too bad.

quote:Taking stands on national issues at a local level like drug laws, middle east conflicts, and choice hasn't gotten Tulsa very far in the past. It just isn't in the purview of a city councilor with a strong mayor. Maybe you could tell me how being a vocal libertarian is going to get city work done. These councilors are managers of the city's business...not charismatic policy makers. The more boring they are, the more likely they're taking care of business.

Just another "plink" in D4.

I didn't start the comments on the national issues; I replied to questions from others.

As far as taking care of the City's business, please recall that I'm advocating repairing the streets and bridges and getting more police on duty before we consider spending tax dollars to build sports and entertainment venues and recreational areas. Doesn't this make sense to you?

I have questioned why the entire downtown area has been torn up at the same time and why the work is moving at a snail's pace. Ms. Barnes has been a Councilor for two years now, so I assume she approves of the situation downtown.

[Rocky Frisco]

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

quote:Which one of my opponents are you shilling for?

quote:Which of my opponents are you working for?

The paranoia runs strong in this one...

Paranoia is new word for sense of humor??

Live and learn. What's this modern world coming to?

Oh, sorry, didn't mean to engage in a battle of wits, or wittiness, with somebody who is unarmed.

Seems like someone needs to apply those principles to himself.

Come on, you can do better than that.

[Rocky Frisco]

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

If you truly believe that there is nothing left in Tulsa worth preserving, then I will duly note that in my pros/cons list of condidates. I just wanted further clarification so that I knew as much about each candidate as possible. Not trying to give you a hard time... []

Can you mention locations in D4 that are historic and endangered? The Metro was world-famous as a favorite business on Route 66. I have seen posters and calendars featuring the Metro in The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and France. The building and the business could have have easily been preserved, but TU has no respect for the city where it's located nor the residents of the area. You live in D4? What do you think about the callous way the residents are treated when there's a game at the Stadium?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

quote:Which one of my opponents are you shilling for?

quote:Which of my opponents are you working for?

The paranoia runs strong in this one...

Paranoia is new word for sense of humor??

Live and learn. What's this modern world coming to?

Oh, sorry, didn't mean to engage in a battle of wits, or wittiness, with somebody who is unarmed.

Seems like someone needs to apply those principles to himself.

Come on, you can do better than that.

Rocky:  

Word of advice, as you are a relatively new Poster on this Forum.

You are kind of mud wrestling with a hog.  

Eventually, you'll realize that the hog ENJOYS it.

However, it does show some courage to use your real name hereabouts.

[Rocky Frisco]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Rocky:  

Word of advice, as you are a relatively new Poster on this Forum.

You are kind of mud wrestling with a hog.  

Eventually, you'll realize that the hog ENJOYS it.

However, it does show some courage to use your real name hereabouts.

I had pretty well figured that out. []

I'm a veteran of the net newsgroups so I came in wearing my Kevlar Full Body Condom (tm).

I have been using my real name online since 1991; whether that's courage or foolhardiness I leave up to the reader. It does lend some credibility to a claim that those who hide might be showing some cowardice, but only if they use the anonymity to insult and carp at others. It has been my experience that the ones who are most insulting and disrespectful online are the little pussycats hiding behind the potted plant in person. Never fails, anonymous bullies are always cowards at heart.

[TURobY]

My name is in my profile... but I can break my user name down for you if you'd like:

TU (I go to TU)
Rob (My first name is Robert)
Y (My last name is Young)

I've mentioned my neighborhood several times (Renaissance).

Do you need much more information?

[Conan71]

Rocky do you have signs?

I live a few blocks from you, my name wouldn't do a thing for you but you'd recognize me if you saw me.  

[TURobY]

quote:Originally posted by Rocky Frisco

Can you mention locations in D4 that are historic and endangered? The Metro was world-famous as a favorite business on Route 66. I have seen posters and calendars featuring the Metro in The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and France. The building and the business could have have easily been preserved, but....

...nobody stopped them. As a councilor, that would be your duty if your constituents agreed, would it not? Or, is the free market running the show?

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You live in D4? What do you think about the callous way the residents are treated when there's a game at the Stadium?

I guess I never noticed. Then again, I also understand what happens when you move next to a university. It's just like moving next to an airport, and then complaining about the noise the jets make...

[Hippy Steve]

I am just curious about one thing at this time.  How did the University of Tulsa, a private school, gain the power to destroy all those businesses along 11th Street?  The Metro Diner was a favorite eating place for a lot of us, plus it's value as a Route 66 landmark is World famous.  The Starship commercial says it all, the monster who ate 11th Street.  Where did they get the power to do this?  Did the Counselor who was, or is, in office just let it happen?  How much power does a Private University have?  How much are they giving back to the city and where is that money?  It sure isn't in the streets and or security in the neighborhoods surrounding the school.