Hillary - NY Election Fraud?

[cannon_fodder]

Ah-oh the Hillary.

It looks like there was some interesting results in New York.  Apparently in many of the districts won by Hillary, Barrack Obama was recorded as receiving ZERO votes.  80 districts recorded no votes for Obama, including in many districts with a strong black minority.  

In one instance, Hillary recorded a win by blanking Obama. Upon a hand recount the tally was 131 votes to her 261.  In other precincts the recount might give Obama a win instead of just increasing his tally.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162008/news/regionalnews/obama_robbed_in_ny_97932.htm

Do I think this is overt election fraud?  Probably not.  I don't have the facts to really call it that (fraud is someone ACTING to mess things up, not just SNAFU).  But it seems people are fond of calling "FRAUD!" anytime there is a semblance of irregularities so I felt compelled to share.

Other facts:
Bill Clinton has an office just down the street from several of the precincts.
Bill and Hillary know many of the election officials.
Hillary is one of the most powerful people in the state.
Hillary finished ahead of where the polls indicated she would.

Gasp!

[Conan71]

Give it up dude.  Only Repugs steal elections and commit voter fraud.

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[FOTD]

Give me your address and I'll buy a pack of smokes to send you.....what brand?

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Give me your address and I'll buy a pack of smokes to send you.....what brand?

I'm really frustrated with you today, Friend Of Lucifer.  I'm having to post for you.  Get on the ball, man!

Nope, no more nicotine in this body, not on purpose- seven weeks as of today.

[FOTD]

Sorry, I'm in need of some restraint.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Sorry, I'm in need of some restraint.

Wooo wooo....woooo woooo...

[Gaspar]

Wow! this battle is slimy already!

Hillary, Obama Make Big Payoffs to Superdelegates

Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:37 PM


Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama are letting their wallets do the talking when it comes to wooing superdelegates, a new study reveals.

"While it would be unseemly for the candidates to hand out thousands of dollars to primary voters, or to the delegates pledged to represent the will of those voters, elected officials serving as superdelegates have received about $890,000 from Obama and Clinton in the form of campaign contributions over the last three years," the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics reported, according to the Boston Globe.

There are about 800 superdelegates -- elected officials, party leaders, and others -- who are expected to play a key role in determining which candidate wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Center for Responsive Politics says Obama's PAC has contributed more than $694,000 to superdelegates since 2005. Clinton's political action committee has distributed about $195,000 to superdelegates.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

Wow! this battle is slimy already!

Hillary, Obama Make Big Payoffs to Superdelegates

Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:37 PM


Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama are letting their wallets do the talking when it comes to wooing superdelegates, a new study reveals.

"While it would be unseemly for the candidates to hand out thousands of dollars to primary voters, or to the delegates pledged to represent the will of those voters, elected officials serving as superdelegates have received about $890,000 from Obama and Clinton in the form of campaign contributions over the last three years," the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics reported, according to the Boston Globe.

There are about 800 superdelegates -- elected officials, party leaders, and others -- who are expected to play a key role in determining which candidate wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Center for Responsive Politics says Obama's PAC has contributed more than $694,000 to superdelegates since 2005. Clinton's political action committee has distributed about $195,000 to superdelegates.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

and how's this differ from the most recent rebate?

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

Wow! this battle is slimy already!

Hillary, Obama Make Big Payoffs to Superdelegates

Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:37 PM


Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama are letting their wallets do the talking when it comes to wooing superdelegates, a new study reveals.

"While it would be unseemly for the candidates to hand out thousands of dollars to primary voters, or to the delegates pledged to represent the will of those voters, elected officials serving as superdelegates have received about $890,000 from Obama and Clinton in the form of campaign contributions over the last three years," the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics reported, according to the Boston Globe.

There are about 800 superdelegates -- elected officials, party leaders, and others -- who are expected to play a key role in determining which candidate wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Center for Responsive Politics says Obama's PAC has contributed more than $694,000 to superdelegates since 2005. Clinton's political action committee has distributed about $195,000 to superdelegates.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

and how's this differ from the most recent rebate?

Well, I can think of a couple ways. . .  

1. The rebate is my tax money being returned to me.

2. I also don't believe that George Bush is running for president, but I'll have to check and make sure.

I know you are a staunch defender of Obama, and I admire your tenacity, but if you are going to attempt to make a point, please give us more to work with.  You just come across as an angry person.  

[FOTD]

Congress gave the rebate. It's not your money, it's our money.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Congress gave the rebate. It's not your money, it's our money.

Ok, so how is giving us back "our" money an attempt to sway the election?  

. . . after all, arn't you are the flag waving "we're in a recession" guy?  What would your propose to fend off recession?  

I'm curious?

[cannon_fodder]

To chime in where I haven't been asked:

quote:These rebate checks are like pouring a drink for an alcoholic.

I for one, agree with Bloomberg on this one.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/nyregion/15bloomberg.html?_r=2&ex=1360818000&en=78c290468abf0d71&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&oref=login&oref=slogin

Don't worry if you spend too much money, Uncle Sam will borrow more money and bail you out.  Spend spend spend!  Oh crap, we're in trouble because we spent to much. Here, spend some more - that'll fix it!

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Congress gave the rebate. It's not your money, it's our money.

Ok, so how is giving us back "our" money an attempt to sway the election?  

. . . after all, arn't you are the flag waving "we're in a recession" guy?  What would your propose to fend off recession?  

I'm curious?

Too little too late....
New taxes.

[HazMatCFO]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

Wow! this battle is slimy already!

Hillary, Obama Make Big Payoffs to Superdelegates

Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:37 PM


Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama are letting their wallets do the talking when it comes to wooing superdelegates, a new study reveals.

"While it would be unseemly for the candidates to hand out thousands of dollars to primary voters, or to the delegates pledged to represent the will of those voters, elected officials serving as superdelegates have received about $890,000 from Obama and Clinton in the form of campaign contributions over the last three years," the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics reported, according to the Boston Globe.

There are about 800 superdelegates -- elected officials, party leaders, and others -- who are expected to play a key role in determining which candidate wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Center for Responsive Politics says Obama's PAC has contributed more than $694,000 to superdelegates since 2005. Clinton's political action committee has distributed about $195,000 to superdelegates.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

The Clinton machine is one step ahead of Obama with buying superdelegates as insurance against losing the popular vote in the primaries or worse yet, the elected delegate count.

This is going to get nasty if Hillary's camp can swing the nomination her way by manipulating superdelegates or getting Florida and Michigan counted after all campaigns agreed to stay out.

[RecycleMichael]

Why is everything anti-Hillary?

Read this story. Obama has donated over three and a half times more money to these delegates.

What if Hillary is ahead after Ohio and Texas?

Are you guys then going to say that Obama is trying to manipulate the election? Of course not.

What a double standard.