Let's Make Voter Fraud Easier- Sen Corn

[Double A]

Bill lets voter register and vote on same day

Associated Press - February 20, 2008 4:15 PM ET

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - Oklahoma voters could register and vote on the same day under a bill headed to the floor of the Oklahoma Senate.

Poteau Democrat Kenneth Corn attached the same-day voting procedure on Wednesday to a measure designed to combat potential voter fraud.

In Oklahoma, you must be registered 24 days before an election.

Corn's amendment was to a separate bill that requires voters to show identification when they cast their ballots.

The identification could be a voter ID card, driver's license, passport or even a utility bill or bank statement showing the voter's name and address.

[RecycleMichael]

Many states allow this already and have no higher rates of voter fraud.

You are just fear-mongering...kinda like our President does.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Many states allow this already and have no higher rates of voter fraud.

You are just fear-mongering...kinda like our President does.

With vacant lots voting in Tulsa, that's a bold statement.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Many states allow this already and have no higher rates of voter fraud.

You are just fear-mongering...kinda like our President does.

Yep. All roads lead to Bush.

Scientific Question: "Second-hand smoke causes cancer"
Recycle: you're just fear-mongering...kinda like our president.

Scientific Question: "Risky sexual behavior can lead to the transmission of HIV"
Recycle: you're just fear-mongering...kinda like our president.

You are hilarious. BTW, Bush is not fear-mongering. It's that vast right wing conspiracy out there. You know, the conspiracy that's BURYING your precious Hillary.

[rwarn17588]

As unpopular Bush is, I don't think he's putting the fear into anybody.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

As unpopular Bush is, I don't think he's putting the fear into anybody.

You have got to be kidding. Have you read any of the blue blogs out there? There are nutjobs out there who are afraid Bush is going to cancel the 2008 elections.

[rwarn17588]

No, I'm not kidding.

Would you be scared of anyone with a 19 percent approval rating? It'd be like being scared of Pauly Shore.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

[Chicken Little]

Many of us can get approval on a loan in two minutes and thirty seconds; the times they are a-changin'.  Same day registration?  Sounds terrific.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

No, I'm not kidding.

Would you be scared of anyone with a 19 percent approval rating? It'd be like being scared of Pauly Shore.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

The Weaz is not amused.



His approval rating's been hovering around 21% since 1993.  

[Wrinkle]

Heck, then, why bother to register at all? Just let anyone who shows up vote, at however many places they show up.

Or, save everyone the time and hassel and just premark all the ballots.

Same day registration promotes unregulated elections, if that's the objective.

Do you think we should even mess with that age limitation at all?

Maybe we could just set it up on an 800 number to dial in to vote (I was going to say 900 number, but, golly, that's a $0.95 charge or such, and then there's all those folks who don't have access to a phone, don't know how to dial or can't see the numbers).

And, remember, your dog wants a voice.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Heck, then, why bother to register at all? Just let anyone who shows up vote, at however many places they show up.

Or, save everyone the time and hassel and just premark all the ballots.

Same day registration promotes unregulated elections, if that's the objective.

Do you think we should even mess with that age limitation at all?

Maybe we could just set it up on an 800 number to dial in to vote (I was going to say 900 number, but, golly, that's a $0.95 charge or such, and then there's all those folks who don't have access to a phone, don't know how to dial or can't see the numbers).

And, remember, your dog wants a voice.

Slippery slope, thy name is Wrinkle.  

That's a stunning argument, but entirely devoid of logic. If they show up to vote, prove to be legally able and are packing the necessary docs to back it up, can you come up with a compelling reason why they shouldn't be able to register right then and there?  Perhaps we can even deploy modern technological advancements to aid in that pursuit, such as the fax machine, or perhaps a hand cranked cell phone, or my newfangled coal-fired laptop.  There are methods out there that, with a minimum of oversight might result in a positive rather than a negative outcome.    

It's also worth saying that my dog, who is fiscally conservative but socially liberal, and who carries some admittedly unconventional -- but certainly not out of the mainstream! -- views of privacy and property rights, is an underserved constituency. If he shows up with a CDL license and his tax returns from 2003, will you let him pull the lever?

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

Originally posted by RecycleMichael
With vacant lots voting in Tulsa, that's a bold statement.

You are proving my point. There is some voter fraud in Oklahoma with a 24 day waiting period and most voter fraud occurs with absentee ballots.

Prove there would be more voter fraud with same day registration.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:Originally posted by Double A

Originally posted by RecycleMichael
With vacant lots voting in Tulsa, that's a bold statement.

You are proving my point. There is some voter fraud in Oklahoma with a 24 day waiting period and most voter fraud occurs with absentee ballots.

Prove there would be more voter fraud with same day registration.

Why don't we just get rid of paper ballots while we're at it? Corn's little stunt will go down in flames. I am not surprised you would advocate a system that is easily corrupted, after all it is how the family llc stays in operation.

[RecycleMichael]

Why do you change the argument?

Just prove your accusation.

How does same day registration and voting "make voter fraud easier"? Show examples please.

[Conan71]

This isn't a terribly big deal so long as there are some residency requirements prior to registering.  Main thing we want to do is discourage anyone who might see fit to recruit a bunch of Arkansas college kids to "move over" to West Siloam Springs or Colcord to vote.

Reality of Oklahoma is they will always vote Rep nationally, so there's not much need to stuff the boxes here.