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Bomasada Development (NOT) Going Forward

Started by cannon_fodder, March 03, 2008, 03:01:15 PM

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cannon_fodder

This is a continuation of this thread, in which a rumor began that the project was being put on hold.  I started a new thread to quash that rumor.  

I spoke to a representative who was unsure, so she contacted John Gilbert - senior vice president of Bomasada.  According to John "the project is moving forward." That was as of 2:30 this afternoon.

So if you have information that the VP of Bomasada is not telling the whole truth - let me know.  Otherwise lets get back to the discussion on the development [:P]
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I crush grooves.

Gaspar

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Originally posted by cannon_fodder

This is a continuation of this thread, in which a rumor began that the project was being put on hold.  I started a new thread to quash that rumor.  

I spoke to a representative who was unsure, so she contacted John Gilbert - senior vice president of Bomasada.  According to John "the project is moving forward." That was as of 2:30 this afternoon.

So if you have information that the VP of Bomasada is not telling the whole truth - let me know.  Otherwise lets get back to the discussion on the development [:P]



My bad.  I was the source of the rumor.  [:(]  

I had some of our senior staff ask me for information on the project because they heard, from a couple of investors, that Bomasada was dropping the project due to restrictions put on the design.  

They (our clients) had an interest in moving on the property while the excitement still existed.

I will refrain from posting rumors in the future.  

I shall accept my lashes!

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Consider yourself spanked (just a hint, don't Google spanking photos at work, goodness, I'm a bit naive!)

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

cannon_fodder



Heh.  I was guilty of the same thing with the incinerator for storm debris a while back.  Thought my source was solid and I wanted to be the big dog with the story.

I've been double checking all my stuff lately, I guess you'll be on the same boat. But man would we have been cool if we were right [:P]
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I crush grooves.

Gaspar

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Originally posted by Conan71

Consider yourself spanked (just a hint, don't Google spanking photos at work, goodness, I'm a bit naive!)





I'd spank my kid if he dressed like that too!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

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Originally posted by Gaspar

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Originally posted by Conan71

Consider yourself spanked (just a hint, don't Google spanking photos at work, goodness, I'm a bit naive!)





I'd spank my kid if he dressed like that too!



After saying that, I just looked down and realized I'm wearing two different socks!  Crap!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

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Originally posted by Gaspar

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Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Consider yourself spanked (just a hint, don't Google spanking photos at work, goodness, I'm a bit naive!)





I'd spank my kid if he dressed like that too!



After saying that, I just looked down and realized I'm wearing two different socks!  Crap!




[}:)]
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

booWorld

Potential obstacles:

1.  Much of the property is located with the City of Tulsa Regulatory Floodplain (Perryman Ditch shallow flooding area).

2.  Height limitation of 35 feet.  Possible solutions are to propose a PUD or to propose re-zoning to RM-3.

3.  Not enough land to allow 240 apartments to be built with the current mixture of RM-1 and RM-2 zoning.  Possible solution is to request re-zoning some of the RM-2 property to RM-3.

4.  Resistance from the neighborhood.  This won't matter if the developers can convince enough TMAPC and City Councilors to vote in favor of the project.

spoonbill

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Originally posted by booWorld

Potential obstacles:

1.  Much of the property is located with the City of Tulsa Regulatory Floodplain (Perryman Ditch shallow flooding area).

2.  Height limitation of 35 feet.  Possible solutions are to propose a PUD or to propose re-zoning to RM-3.

3.  Not enough land to allow 240 apartments to be built with the current mixture of RM-1 and RM-2 zoning.  Possible solution is to request re-zoning some of the RM-2 property to RM-3.

4.  Resistance from the neighborhood.  This won't matter if the developers can convince enough TMAPC and City Councilors to vote in favor of the project.



All minor everyday changes.  Only TMAPC matters, with fire marshall approval.  He has equal power.

booWorld

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Originally posted by spoonbill

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Originally posted by booWorld

Potential obstacles:

1.  Much of the property is located with the City of Tulsa Regulatory Floodplain (Perryman Ditch shallow flooding area).

2.  Height limitation of 35 feet.  Possible solutions are to propose a PUD or to propose re-zoning to RM-3.

3.  Not enough land to allow 240 apartments to be built with the current mixture of RM-1 and RM-2 zoning.  Possible solution is to request re-zoning some of the RM-2 property to RM-3.

4.  Resistance from the neighborhood.  This won't matter if the developers can convince enough TMAPC and City Councilors to vote in favor of the project.



All minor everyday changes.  Only TMAPC matters, with fire marshall approval.  He has equal power.



If the developer is proposing a PUD, then the TMAPC and the City Council will matter.


5.  Fire marshal's approval.  If the project is designed and built to locally adopted codes, then this won't be an insurmountable obstacle either.

booWorld

^ I just now saw your post on the other thread, spoonbill.  So are the plans done to another code not approved by the City of Tulsa?

booWorld

^ The current zoning restrictions would limit the height of the building to 35 feet, and they would require more land area to build the same number of apartments.  See Section 403 of the Zoning Code.

swake

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Originally posted by inteller

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Originally posted by booWorld

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Originally posted by spoonbill

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Originally posted by booWorld

Potential obstacles:

1.  Much of the property is located with the City of Tulsa Regulatory Floodplain (Perryman Ditch shallow flooding area).

2.  Height limitation of 35 feet.  Possible solutions are to propose a PUD or to propose re-zoning to RM-3.

3.  Not enough land to allow 240 apartments to be built with the current mixture of RM-1 and RM-2 zoning.  Possible solution is to request re-zoning some of the RM-2 property to RM-3.

4.  Resistance from the neighborhood.  This won't matter if the developers can convince enough TMAPC and City Councilors to vote in favor of the project.



All minor everyday changes.  Only TMAPC matters, with fire marshall approval.  He has equal power.



If the developer is proposing a PUD, then the TMAPC and the City Council will matter.


5.  Fire marshal's approval.  If the project is designed and built to locally adopted codes, then this won't be an insurmountable obstacle either.




why would the developer propose a PUD?  from my experience the evil developers would rather not have a PUD and just go with the raw zoning restrictions.



Nearly all developments go the PUD route

booWorld

^ Such as the proposed Target at the northeast corner of 101st and Memorial, for example.

dsjeffries

It's back on the table!

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Plans for apartments at 36th and Rockford back on


By World Staff
4/2/2008  3:56 PM

Plans for a multistory, upscale apartment complex in Brookside are back on track.

The developer, Bomasada Group Inc. of Houston, hopes to break ground on the Enclave at Brookside within six months, officials said.

The apartment complex will be at the corner of 39th Street and Rockford Avenue.

"We're moving ahead and we'll see how it goes," said John Gilbert, senior vice president of Bomasada.

In March, Bomasada scrapped plans for the project, citing rising costs.

Gilbert said Wednesday that the issue had been resolved.

The original proposal called for a five-story complex that would include 240 apartments with underground parking.

Gilbert said the latest plan calls for a four-story structure with 234 units.

Parking will be in a separate, four-story structure.

The one- and two-bedroom apartments will go for between $800 and $2,000 per month.