A Special Kind of Stupid

[cannon_fodder]

Damn it Jaynes, he was one post away from having a month-long conversation with himself.

How many people do you think read the garbage you spam in all these threads?

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Damn it Jaynes, he was one post away from having a month-long conversation with himself.

How many people do you think read the garbage you spam in all these threads?

So that's your game plan? Eliminate discussion so you can eventually let it go by with no sound reasoning nor an honest conclusion nor a determination of right from wrong? How do your coworkers tolerate you? Do you have coworkers or are you always in your confinded little world?

[cannon_fodder]

lol @ AOX.

I forget you are the poster child for sound reasoning and honest conclusions.  Which one of those is spamming of articles with no discussion or reply for nearly a month?  

Also, in what way did I stymie discussion - point out that you talked to yourself in here for a month?  It seems no one is interested in discussion things with you because you fail miserably to meet your own criteria.   In general, when someone points out that you are acting like a fool (posting to yourself for a month) - the preferred response is not to prove them correct.

You may now go back to your article spamming.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

lol @ AOX.

I forget you are the poster child for sound reasoning and honest conclusions.  Which one of those is spamming of articles with no discussion or reply for nearly a month?  

Also, in what way did I stymie discussion - point out that you talked to yourself in here for a month?  It seems no one is interested in discussion things with you because you fail miserably to meet your own criteria.   In general, when someone points out that you are acting like a fool (posting to yourself for a month) - the preferred response is not to prove them correct.

You may now go back to your article spamming.

Where's your butt brother Ipsqueak been lately?

[FOTD]

Military Propaganda at it's worst....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHNntBQlzOs

Americans by and large are suckers.....they believe the special stupid people.

[FOTD]

Legal Brief
Religious Right Lies About Hate Bill
By Rhonda Brownstein

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=910

"These and other similarly outlandish claims by an array of far-right Christian fundamentalist groups are designed to incite their members to oppose a proposed amendment to the current federal hate crimes law. But it's obvious that these groups never consulted an actual lawyer — at least not one who knew anything about law."


"Contrary to the claims of right-wing groups like the American Family Association that the bill would "criminalize thoughts," the bill only applies in cases where a victim was physically attacked or the subject of an attempted attack. It does not "criminalize negative comments concerning homosexuality." It would not make calling the practice of homosexuality a sin from the pulpit a "hate crime" punishable by "a hefty fine and time in prison." It would not "send your grandma, your pastor, or you to jail for sharing your faith." Here's what the bill actually says...."

"The outrageous claims of the American Family Association and other groups that the LLECHPA is "dangerous legislation [that] would take away your freedom of speech and your freedom of religion" are nothing more than false demagoguery and fearmongering. As groups that allegedly promote morality, one would expect they would have more allegiance to the truth."


They don't know what their talking about....all those special kind of media and religious stoops....

[Gaspar]

I gotta pop into this thread every now and then.  

It's like watching my daughter have a discussion with her imaginary friend.  

No intelligible dialogue, just a stream of words, emotion, and expression.

This is a tapestry of the poster's mind.

[mr.jaynes]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

I gotta pop into this thread every now and then.  

It's like watching my daughter have a discussion with her imaginary friend.  

No intelligible dialogue, just a stream of words, emotion, and expression.

This is a tapestry of the poster's mind.

But enough about Laura Ingraham....

[FOTD]

Putz News Network. I still insist on a restaurant or club turning that channel off before I give the establishment a dime of my money.....

http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=desperado&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3AdesperadoPost%3Aa291bd57-de8e-4309-9775-e47354920419

"The topic was Republican attacks on Michelle Obama and whether or not it was fair. The strange thing about the caption was that neither Malkin nor Kelly said those words during the interview. Apparently, someone in the production room decided to insert their personal opinion. I know Fox has an anti-Obama slant, as borne out by Sean Hannity's continuous rant about the "radical" Barack Obama, but this is over the top.

Is this what we can expect from the "fair and balanced" network from now 'til November? Since it's only June, I shudder to think what words might crawl across the screen by then."

FOX Propaganda Network gets a jump start on the Michelle Obama racial slurs with "Baby Mama" caption. The FOX Bigot Network. Roger Ailes would make a good plantation owner. You can see him standing there with his bull whip.

[cannon_fodder]

What was bigoted about it again?



Do you know what a bigot is?  It's not a simple matter of showing bias or even disrespect.

Also, calling him "radical" my be using a loaded term, but he is the most liberal member of the Senate and has been advocating for extreme change... so the description is apt.  Is that what makes the news bigoted?

Also, do you just sit around and try to find things to be outraged about?

You can go back to talking to yourself now...

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Putz News Network. I still insist on a restaurant or club turning that channel off before I give the establishment a dime of my money.....

http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=desperado&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3AdesperadoPost%3Aa291bd57-de8e-4309-9775-e47354920419

"The topic was Republican attacks on Michelle Obama and whether or not it was fair. The strange thing about the caption was that neither Malkin nor Kelly said those words during the interview. Apparently, someone in the production room decided to insert their personal opinion. I know Fox has an anti-Obama slant, as borne out by Sean Hannity's continuous rant about the "radical" Barack Obama, but this is over the top.

Is this what we can expect from the "fair and balanced" network from now 'til November? Since it's only June, I shudder to think what words might crawl across the screen by then."

FOX Propaganda Network gets a jump start on the Michelle Obama racial slurs with "Baby Mama" caption. The FOX Bigot Network. Roger Ailes would make a good plantation owner. You can see him standing there with his bull whip.

You are probably a lousy tipper too.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

What was bigoted about it again?



Do you know what a bigot is?  It's not a simple matter of showing bias or even disrespect.

Also, calling him "radical" my be using a loaded term, but he is the most liberal member of the Senate and has been advocating for extreme change... so the description is apt.  Is that what makes the news bigoted?

Also, do you just sit around and try to find things to be outraged about?

You can go back to talking to yourself now...

In point of fact, she's not his baby mama, which means the mother of his children to which he's not married. She's his wife. So it really IS a slur.  I think it's bigotted, too, but I can see where that may be in the eye of the beholder.

Where do we get that whole "most liberal member of the Senate" malarkey?  I've heard that repeated ad nauseum but haven't ever seen anything to back it up.  Not that Obama's not a liberal, but that particular usage scans as  inaccurate.  What about Feinstein, or Feingold, or Boxer, or Kennedy, or Kerry?  And now that I mention Kerry, doesn't it seem like, just four years ago, HE was the most liberal member of the Senate?  

[cannon_fodder]

Wevus,

I agree that the comment was unprofessional from a journalistic perspective, but not terribly offensive.  It was probably some stupid Fox desk jockey thinking he was being clever.  It can also mean "The mother of your children" or "A source of endless emotional pain and/or headaches" per the link you gave me.  I won't defend it, but the term "bigot" should be reserved for severe displays of racism (or other bigotry) IMHO.

Also, per the "most liberal" it comes from the National Journal Congressional scores.  They (basically) take topics/votes and rate each side of that bill the conservative or liberal side of the bill, then track which way each member votes.  The below linked website has their entire methodology in the sidebar link.


Obama ranked the most liberal member of Congress:
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/voteratings/

It has generally been acknowledged as a fair system as the empirical method it uses have limited interpretation.  At least so far as political labels are concerned, it's pretty non-controversial. Oh, and all members are rated - kind of fun to check it out and see if labels fit or not.

[FOTD]

Bittermen......

[RecycleMichael]

Obama is not the most liberal. National Journal says so, but most other ranking groups say he is middle of the road liberal.

Here is the composite score from other groups.

Here is a better guide to how conservative or liberal a senator is...Coburn is number 3 on the conservative side and Obama and Hillary are both middle of the road liberal.

The eight groups used in this study are:

ACU - American Conservative Union
ATR - Americans for Tax Reform
CWA - Concern Women for America
Club4 - Club for Growth
Eagle - Eagle Forum
FRC - Family Research Council
RTL - Right to Life
TVC - Traditional Values Coalition



Senator State ACU ATR CWA Club4 Eagle FRC RTL TVC Mean

Jim DeMint (R) South Carolina 100% 95% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 80% 97%
John Ensign (R) Nevada 100% N/A 100% 93% 100% 100% 100% 80% 96%
Tom Coburn (R) Oklahoma 100% 85% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 80% 96%
John Barrasso (R) Wyoming N/A N/A N/A 90% N/A 100% N/A N/A 95%
Saxby Chambliss (R) Georgia 96% 90% 100% 93% 100% 100% 100% 80% 95%
Jim Bunning (R) Kentucky 96% 90% 100% 87% 100% 100% 100% 80% 94%
James Inhofe (R) Oklahoma 100% 90% 100% 80% 100% 100% 100% 80% 94%
Jon Kyl (R) Arizona 92% 95% 100% 93% 89% 100% 100% 80% 94%
Johnny Isakson (R) Georgia 96% 90% 100% 79% 100% 100% 100% 80% 93%
John Sununu (R) New Hampshire 88% 95% 100% 80% 78% 100% 100% 100% 93%
David Vitter (R) Louisiana 92% 95% 100% 73% 100% 100% 100% 80% 93%
John Thune (R) South Dakota 100% 85% 100% 73% 100% 100% 100% 80% 92%
Jeff Sessions (R) Alabama 92% N/A 100% 73% 100% 100% 100% 80% 92%
John Cornyn (R) Texas 96% 90% 100% 80% 89% 100% 100% 80% 92%
Michael Enzi (R) Wyoming 96% 90% 100% 69% 100% 100% 100% 80% 92%
Charles Grassley (R) Iowa 88% 80% 100% 73% 100% 100% 100% 80% 90%
Mike Crapo (R) Idaho 88% 85% 100% 67% 100% 100% 100% 80% 90%
Wayne Allard (R) Colorado 88% 95% 100% 67% 89% 100% 100% 80% 90%
Elizabeth Dole (R) North Carolina 96% 80% 100% 62% 100% 100% 100% 80% 90%
Pat Roberts (R) Kansas 84% 90% 100% 40% 100% 100% 100% 80% 87%
Lindsey Graham (R) South Carolina 83% 95% 100% 92% 44% 100% 100% 80% 87%
Richard Burr (R) North Carolina 92% 90% 100% 100% 89% 85% 75% 60% 86%
Mitch McConnell (R) Kentucky 84% 95% 100% 53% 78% 100% 100% 80% 86%
Sam Brownback (R) Kansas 87% 90% 100% 80% 56% 85% 100% 80% 85%
Richard Shelby (R) Alabama 74% 80% 100% 40% 89% 100% 100% 80% 83%
Roger Wicker (R) Mississippi 88% 86% 100% 2% 100% 100% 100% 85% 83%
Mel Martinez (R) Florida 84% 95% 100% 60% 38% 100% 100% 80% 82%
Kit Bond (R) Missouri 80% 90% 100% 13% 89% 100% 100% 80% 82%
Larry Craig (R) Idaho 88% 95% 100% 50% 67% 71% 100% 80% 81%
Chuck Hagel (R) Nebraska 75% N/A 100% 50% 44% 100% 100% 100% 81%
Bob Corker (R) Tennessee N/A N/A N/A 60% N/A 100% N/A N/A 80%
Kay Hutchison (R) Texas 84% 90% 100% 53% 78% 85% 75% 60% 78%
Orrin Hatch (R) Utah 84% N/A 100% 47% 89% 85% 75% 60% 77%
Pete Domenici (R) New Mexico 75% 90% 100% 15% 56% 100% 100% 80% 77%
Norm Coleman (R) Minnesota 68% 75% 100% 33% 56% 85% 100% 80% 75%
Ben Nelson (D) Nebraska 64% 95% 89% 7% 100% 85% 75% 80% 74%
Judd Gregg (R) New Hampshire 72% 95% 100% 47% 50% 71% 75% 80% 74%
Lamar Alexander (R) Tennessee 72% 90% 100% 33% 67% 85% 75% 60% 73%
John McCain (R) Arizona 65% 80% 100% 100% 38% 42% 75% 80% 73%
Robert Bennett (R) Utah 72% 90% 100% 40% 56% 85% 75% 60% 72%
Richard Lugar (R) Indiana 64% 75% 100% 67% 33% 71% 75% 60% 68%
Thad Cochran (R) Mississippi 67% 80% 100% 13% 63% 85% 75% 60% 68%
Gordon Smith (R) Oregon 72% 90% 100% 47% 56% 57% 50% 60% 67%
George Voinovich (R) Ohio 56% 50% 89% 29% 33% 85% 100% 60% 63%
Lisa Murkowski (R) Alaska 71% 95% 100% 20% 44% 57% 50% 60% 62%
Ted Stevens (R) Alaska 64% 95% 100% 13% 33% 57% 50% 60% 59%
John Warner (R) Virginia 64% 80% 100% 15% 44% 57% 50% 60% 59%
Susan Collins (R) Maine 48% 60% 78% 27% 44% 28% 0% 60% 43%
Arlen Specter (R) Pennsylvania 43% 70% 88% 13% 25% 28% 0% 60% 41%
Olympia Snowe (R) Maine 36% 50% 78% 27% 33% 28% 0% 60% 39%
Mary Landrieu (D) Louisiana 24% 30% 67% 13% 22% 42% 50% 40% 36%
Robert Byrd (D) West Virginia 21% 10% 56% 7% 67% 14% 50% 40% 33%
Mark Pryor (D) Arkansas 20% 25% 56% 7% 33% 14% 50% 40% 31%
Kent Conrad (D) North Dakota 33% 15% 33% 7% 44% 42% 25% 40% 30%
Bill Nelson (D) Florida 40% 35% 33% 7% 44% 0% 25% 40% 28%
Bob Casey (D) Pennsylvania N/A N/A N/A 7% N/A 42% N/A N/A 25%
Tim Johnson (D) South Dakota 12% 10% 25% 0% 22% 14% 50% 60% 24%
Tom Carper (D) Delaware 20% 15% 33% 14% 33% 0% 25% 20% 20%
Claire McCaskill (D) Missouri N/A N/A N/A 40% N/A 0% N/A N/A 20%
Ken Salazar (D) Colorado 17% 10% 44% 7% 13% 14% 25% 20% 19%
Evan Bayh (D) Indiana 16% 15% 11% 36% 11% 14% 25% 20% 19%
Byron Dorgan (D) North Dakota 12% 5% 0% 7% 44% 28% 25% 20% 18%
Harry Reid (D) Nevada 12% 10% 11% 7% 11% 0% 50% 40% 18%
Max Baucus (D) Montana 8% 25% 11% 7% 22% 14% 0% 40% 16%
Russ Feingold (D) Wisconsin 8% 15% 0% 80% 0% 0% 0% 20% 15%
Blanche Lincoln (D) Arkansas 8% 20% 0% 14% 22% 14% 0% 40% 15%
Herbert Kohl (D) Wisconsin 16% 15% 14% 7% 11% 0% 25% 20% 14%
Joseph Lieberman (I) Connecticut 17% 15% 33% 7% 0% 14% 0% 20% 13%
Daniel Inouye (D) Hawaii 8% 5% 33% 7% 0% 0% 25% 20% 12%
Barack Obama (D) Illinois 8% 15% 11% 33% 0% 0% 0% 20% 11%
Ben Cardin (D) Maryland 8% 14% 29% 7% 14% 0% 0% 14% 11%
Sherrod Brown (D) Ohio 25% 18% 31% 8% 0% 0% 0% 0% 10%
Debbie Stabenow (D) Michigan 16% 5% 0% 7% 33% 0% 0% 20% 10%
John Kerry (D) Massachusetts 12% 15% 0% 7% 11% 14% 0% 20% 10%
Ron Wyden (D) Oregon 8% 10% 11% 7% 22% 0% 0% 20% 10%
Dianne Feinstein (D) California 0% 10% 11% 7% 11% 14% 0% 20% 9%
Jeff Bingaman (D) New Mexico 8% 10% 22% 13% 0% 0% 0% 20% 9%
Hillary Clinton (D) New York 8% 10% 11% 11% 11% 0% 0% 20% 9%
Tom Harkin (D) Iowa 8% 5% 11% 13% 11% 0% 0% 20% 9%
Charles Schumer (D) New York 4% 5% 11% 7% 11% 0% 0% 25% 8%
Joseph Biden (D) Delaware 4% 10% 0% 17% 11% 0% 0% 20% 8%
Patrick Leahy (D) Vermont 0% 10% 11% 7% 11% 0% 0% 20% 7%
Bernard Sanders (I) Vermont 8% 14% 15% 7% 0% 0% 0% 14% 7%
Daniel Akaka (D) Hawaii 0% 5% 11% 7% 0% 14% 0% 20% 7%
Barbara Mikulski (D) Maryland 0% 5% 11% 7% 11% 0% 0% 20% 7%
Maria Cantwell (D) Washington 12% 15% 0% 7% 0% 0% 0% 20% 7%
Edward Kennedy (D) Massachusetts 0% 5% 0% 9% 0% 14% 0% 25% 7%
Jon Tester (D) Montana N/A N/A N/A 13% N/A 0% N/A N/A 7%
Jim Webb (D) Virginia N/A N/A N/A 13% N/A 0% N/A N/A 7%
Barbara Boxer (D) California 8% 5% 0% 7% 11% 0% 0% 20% 6%
Carl Levin (D) Michigan 8% 5% 0% 7% 11% 0% 0% 20% 6%
Dick Durbin (D) Illinois 4% 5% 11% 7% 0% 0% 0% 20% 6%
Patty Murray (D) Washington 4% 15% 0% 7% 0% 0% 0% 20% 6%
John Rockefeller (D) West Virginia 10% 5% 11% 17% 0% 0% 0% 0% 5%
Frank Lautenberg (D) New Jersey 0% 5% N/A 7% 0% 0% 0% 20% 5%
Bob Menendez (D) New Jersey 4% 5% 0% 7% 0% 0% 0% 20% 5%
Jack Reed (D) Rhode Island 4% 5% 0% 7% 0% 0% 0% 20% 5%
Amy Klobuchar (D) Minnesota N/A N/A N/A 7% N/A 0% N/A N/A 4%
Sheldon Whitehouse Rhode Island N/A N/A N/A 7% N/A 0% N/A N/A 4%
Christopher Dodd (D) Connecticut 8% 5% 0% 14% 0% 0% 0% 0% 3%