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Siegelman Freed/ Rove to Jail!

Started by FOTD, March 27, 2008, 08:05:01 PM

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Crash Daily

I have a few questions about all this stink over the firing of U.S. Attorneys.

Didn't Slick Willey come in and clean house on all of them when he entered the White House? I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

Don't U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States? Again, please correct me if I'm wrong here.

If I'm correct on one or both of these items, doesn't that pretty much make this a wet dream, witch hunt of the left wingnuts?

FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Crash Daily

I have a few questions about all this stink over the firing of U.S. Attorneys.

Didn't Slick Willey come in and clean house on all of them when he entered the White House? I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

Don't U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States? Again, please correct me if I'm wrong here.

If I'm correct on one or both of these items, doesn't that pretty much make this a wet dream, witch hunt of the left wingnuts?



"Donald Siegelman has been freed from jail. As many know, Siegelman was Governor of Alabama and was prosecuted for giving a position on a Board in the state to a major contributor, Richard Scrushy. I suppose if we were doing a tit for tat thing, that would mean every major contributor President Bush appointed to Ambassadorships is up for investigation, but that's not how the US DOJ was working under President Bush and Alberto Gonzales. Nope, they prosecuted only Democrats for that sort of thing, even when Senior preosecutors in their office counseled otherwise. Scott Horton in Harpers, over a year ago, noted, basically, that miscarriage of justice should be seen as obstruction of justice on the part of the Bush appointed US Attorneys. "

You might read the links and then comment. That way you won't appear like such a maven.

This case is far different than Presidential pleasures.

Tyranny is the Conservative's revenge for having been left out of the 60's .

Crash Daily

I know all about it. It's a witch hunt. You want to go after criminals, go after the Clinton Admin or any Dem Admin that will appear in the future. Bush skirts gray lines but the Clintons flat out crossed them. It's election year politics and won't amount to a hill of beans.

I don't care for B1 or 2 much myself, but I know irrational, angry Liberals when I see them, lashing out for revenge, creating legal turmoil and trying to throw as many people in jail as they can possibly silence and get revenge on. (Communist flag waving in the wind)

FOTD

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quote:
Originally posted by Crash Daily

I know all about it. It's a witch hunt. You want to go after criminals, go after the Clinton Admin or any Dem Admin that will appear in the future. Bush skirts gray lines but the Clintons flat out crossed them. It's election year politics and won't amount to a hill of beans.

I don't care for B1 or 2 much myself, but I know irrational, angry Liberals when I see them, lashing out for revenge, creating legal turmoil and trying to throw as many people in jail as they can possibly silence and get revenge on. (Communist flag waving in the wind)



Gawd I hate quoting Brunnofibber: "sniff sniff"

CD, you're not his sock puppy. Maybe IPLaw's since his mysterious disappearance.

FOTD

"What Rove's actually doing is breaking the law. Now it's incumbent on the full Judiciary Committee and ultimately House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to decide whether to pursue contempt charges and what beyond that. If there's much more delay -- well, eventually, you've gotta wonder: Whose contempt is greater? Rove's -- for the whole ball of wax we used to call a Constitution. Or Congress's? "

The F Word: Why isn't Rove in Jail?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/336977/the_f_word_why_isn_t_rove_in_jail

Will Pelosi have the spine to do what's right by the law?

FOTD

When you don't believe in karma, you are willing to do all kinds of evil things. Rove is headed toward some excruciatingly, painful lifetimes.

Scary Politics in Alabama: How the GOP Framed Gov. Don Siegelman
http://www.alternet.org/democracy/92158/?ses=872d984a688a9f461cdcbcfaf1bbe608

"According to Simpson's affidavit, Siegelman had conceded the election and did not push for a recount because Riley's team had threatened him with prosecution if he did not withdraw from the race."

"Rove had spoken with the Department of Justice" about "pursuing" Siegelman and had also advised Riley's staff "not to worry about Don Siegelman" because "'his girls' would take care of" the governor.


The "girls" allegedly referenced by Bill Canary were his wife, Leura, and Alice Martin, another 2001 Bush appointee as the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama. Simpson added that she was told by Rob Riley that Judge Mark Fuller was deliberately chosen when the Siegelman case was prosecuted in 2005, and that Fuller would "hang" Siegelman.

Before Simpson testified before the House Judiciary Committee, her house was burned down and her car was run off the road. Simpson was not the only one to have had experienced such bizarre misfortune. Dana Siegelman, Don Siegelman's daughter, said that her family's home was twice broken into during the trial and that Siegelman's attorney had had his office broken into as well.

In the end, what then are we to make of the Alabama election of 2002 and its aftermath, during which not only did Don Siegelman lose, but so did those of us who believe in the rule of law, the Constitution, fair elections, and a Justice System above politics? Is this the type of story you expect to read about in the United States of America?"

Conan71

Quit trying to convict Rove from Alternet.

I know it's your personal wet dream, but...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Quit trying to convict Rove from Alternet.

I know it's your personal wet dream, but...



Not wet.....

Justice must be served. You could care less?

FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Quit trying to convict Rove from Alternet.

I know it's your personal wet dream, but...



This guy Rove has done major damage to our country.

I would not expect you to see that fact.

Here(unalternetted):
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ohio-Attorney-Files-Motion-by-steveheller-080718-804.html
Headlined on 7/18/08:
GOP whistleblower names Karl Rove in Ohio's 04 election theft

This case has the potential to put some of the most powerful people in the country in jail, according to Arnebeck, as he was joined by a well-respected, life-long Republican computer security expert who charged that the red flags seen during Ohio's 2004 Presidential Election would have been cause for "a fraud investigation in a bank, but it doesn't when it comes to our vote."

 
"This entire system is being programmed in secret by programmers who have no oversight by anybody," the expert charged, as Arnebeck detailed allegations of complicity by a number of powerful GOP operatives and companies who had unique access both to the election results as reported in 2004, as well as to U.S. House and Senate computer networks even today."

"One of the more delightful and interesting quotes comes from Arnebeck, concerning what he expects to discover as the stay is lifted: "[W]e anticipate Mr. Rove will be identified as having engaged in a corrupt, ongoing pattern of corrupt activities specifically affecting the situation here in Ohio."

Conan.....answer my question....are you patriotic or just a Creepublican?


Conan71

No I'm skeptical of moonbat websites with conspiracy articles like the one on the Ohio voting machines.  It makes you sound as gullible as altruism suffers.

The whole Rove case is hearsay.  Dems hate the guy because he's been one hell of a strategist and help get them to power and keep them there.

Sieglman, if he were wrongfully prosecuted, and they have incontrovertable evidence beyond hearsay from party operatives, by all means go after him.

So far I've not read much more interesting about the case.  I'm waiting for the smoking gun which will turn Rove into a prison whore.

Siegelman shouldn't have been so tight with Scrushy.  Scrushy is a dirtbag of the highest order who has made a fortune off taxpayers.

I'm all for protecting the consitution and others rights.  Like I said if Rove is guilty, let the animals have their way with him in prison.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD


Conan71

Do you know the difference between NEWS and OPINION?????

"With the House Judiciary Committee planning a hearing Friday on the Bush administration's use of executive privilege, public pressure is building to urge the committee to jail Karl Rove, the Bush White House political maestro.

A coalition of organizations gathered 80,000 signatures on a petition calling on the committee to hold Rove in contempt for his refusal to obey its subpoena. Brave News Films, author of an earlier Internet effort to kick Joseph Lieberman out of the Democratic Party after his endorsement of Republican John McCain, released its petition, Send Karl Rove to Jail, in hopes of compelling Rove"

Look, let Alabama go after Rove.  We don't need anymore circlejerk Congressional investigations of Presidential henchmen, since they can't seem to make anything stick on Bush.  Democrats are pissed, Repiglicans got Clinton impeached, Democrats got Scooter Libby and now Rove.  

There's far more pressing issues for the rest of us than for Congress to please 80,000 piss mops who are bent on tarnishing Bush's legacy.  His legacy is already ****ed anyhow.  Is Rove the extra point?

Let's move on.  Let the DOJ send a nice long scope up Rove's donkey after the new President takes office.  What's the damn hurry?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

No hurry. I hope this drags out so bush can't pardon the fat turd blossom.[}:)]

FOTD

http://www.iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=132059

Des Moines Catholic Worker: Second Arrest Attempt On Karl Rove In Iowa Leads To 4 Arrests
Date: July 25, 2008
Release: Immediately

Contacts:
Mona Shaw MonaShaw@aol.com
Kirk Brown kbmw36@yahoo.com
Chet Guinn CLGuinn@mchsi.com
Frank Cordaro frank.cordaro@gmail.com
Phillip Berrigan Catholic Worker House
713 Indiana Avenue, Des Moines, IA 50314
515-282-4781
www.DesMoinesCatholicWorker.org

SECOND ARREST ATTEMPT ON KARL ROVE IN IOWA LEADS TO 4 ARRESTS

"Four Iowans were arrested today while attempting to make a Citizens' Arrest of Karl Rove in Des Moines, Iowa. Citing Iowa Code provisions for making Citizen's Arrests as well as citing Federal Statute violations they claimed Rove had violated, the four were stopped at the gate of the Wakonda Country Club in Des Moines where Rove was scheduled to speak at a Republican Fundraiser.

The four arrested were retired Methodist minister and Peace and Justice Advocate, Rev. Chet Guinn, 80, as well as three Des Moines Catholic Workers, Edward Bloomer, 61, Kirk Brown, 25, and Mona Shaw, 57. All four were cited for trespassing and released.

The four maintained that they were acting within the guidelines of Iowa Code that obligate private citizens to make such an arrest if they believe a felony has been committed and turn Rove over to police officials to bring Rove before a judge for formal indictment. By law, a federal judge should consider the charges and determine if an indictment should be made.

Brown and Shaw made a similar attempt last March when Rove spoke at the University of Iowa, Iowa City. Brown and Shaw were arrested and released without charges following that attempt. Deaths in the Middle East since the March attempt number in the thousands including, 151 more US troops have been killed in Iraq, and 284 killed in Afghanistan as well as far more citizens of those two nations.

Rove remains unindicted and recently refused to cooperate with a Congressional subpoena in the Valerie Plame leak investigation. Despite mounting evidence of Rove's wrongdoing concerning leading the U.S. to war as well as other actions, Congress and the U.S. judicial system remain reluctant to bring charges against either Rove or the Bush administration. Recent evidence includes Articles of Impeachment that will again be presented by Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich tomorrow. Vincent Bugliosi's new book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" carefully lays out a case against Bush and his administration for war crimes and felony murder. Bugliosi was prosecutor for the Charles Manson Family murders and author of the book "Helter Skelter," which dealt with that crime.

To date there have been 4125 US Military deaths in Iraq, 896 in Afghanistan, 66,775 casualties (wounded as well as those removed for other injuries and illnesses), and more than 200,000 Iraqi and Afghani citizens killed and many, many more wounded."


Kudos to the patriotic citzens who tried to arrest the creep.


"citizens arrest, citizens arrest...." Gomer Pyle

FOTD

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jdnbnHmNAmJMxukSVdkZi8KV5gSgD99A1CF81

Former Bush White House official Karl Rove was questioned (for 8 hours) by House Judiciary Committee lawyers Tuesday on any role he may have played in politically motivated firings of U.S. attorneys. An agreement called for Rove to testify "under the penalty for perjury," which is a way Rove's lawyer can claim that he did not technically testify under oath.

They should have done the same for President Clinton!