Hillary to Sally: Drop DEAD

[tulsasignnazi]

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 7 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said she would defend gay rights as president and eliminate disparities for same-sex couples in federal law, including immigration and tax policy.

Clinton said states such as New Jersey and Massachusetts are extending rights to gay couples "and the federal government should recognize that and should extend the same access to federal benefits across the board. I will very much work to achieve that."

Clinton's comments came in an interview with the Philadelphia Gay News that was posted on its Web site Thursday.

Clinton said she and her husband have many gay friends that they socialize with when they get the chance. "I've got friends, literally, around the country that I'm close to. It's part of my life," she said.

She said that when they ask her why they can't get married, she tells them marriage is a state law. She said that fact helped defeat a constitutional amendment to prohibit same-sex weddings that she said would "enshrine discrimination in the Constitution."

"States are really beginning seriously to deal with the whole range of options, including marriage, both under their own state constitutions and under the legislative approach," she said. "I anticipate that there will be a very concerted amount of effort in the next couple of years that will move this important issue forward and different states will take different approaches as they did with marriage over many years and you will see an evolution over time."

Clinton said she opposes a measure that would ban gay marriage in Pennsylvania.

"I would be very distressed if Pennsylvania were to adopt that kind of mean-spirited referendum and I hope it won't happen," she said.

Clinton's Democratic rival Barack Obama and Republican John McCain declined the newspaper's invitation for an interview. The paper criticized Obama and highlighted his refusal to talk by leaving a blank space on the front page where his interview would have appeared.

Clinton also said she would:

• Eliminate her husband's policy of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" that prevents gays from serving openly in the military. Asked if she could do so by a signing order connected to a military appropriations bill, Clinton said she didn't think that is possible but she would look into it and do it if it were legal.

• Be "very strongly outspoken" against foreign governments that execute gays and use financial assistance and other leverage to prevent the killings.

• Support federal domestic partner legislation to extend rights to all same-sex couples.

• Support services for gay youth, including guidance for schools about the discrimination they face.

• Continue to support gay pride celebrations, to the extent that security would allow. "I don't think the Secret Service let Bill walk in a parade when he became president," she said.

[Conan71]

"'It's part of my life,' she said."

I knew it! I knew it all along! Bill is nothing but arm candy!!!

She's lying again:

"• Eliminate her husband's policy of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" that prevents gays from serving openly in the military. Asked if she could do so by a signing order connected to a military appropriations bill, Clinton said she didn't think that is possible but she would look into it and do it if it were legal."

[tulsasignnazi]

Yep.  Billary's TOAST.

[TheArtist]

Thanks for the info. Does make me lean towards her a bit more. I wonder what Obamas stance on these issues are?

[tulsasignnazi]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

Thanks for the info. Does make me lean towards her a bit more. I wonder what Obamas stance on these issues are?

Bama man WISELY avoided the questions.  Hell, wouldn't you?  No-win question for everyone concerned.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

Thanks for the info. Does make me lean towards her a bit more. I wonder what Obamas stance on these issues are?

The primary already happened in Oklahoma or do you vote in two states like Da Mare?

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

Thanks for the info. Does make me lean towards her a bit more. I wonder what Obamas stance on these issues are?

The primary already happened in Oklahoma or do you vote in two states like Da Mare?

No but we can still root for one or the other lol. And I haven't donated to any campaign yet this year either.

[TURobY]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

...Da Mare?

Who?

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

quote:Originally posted by Double A

...Da Mare?

Who?

TURobY, AA thinks it's cool to hate on Mayor Taylor.  There's bigger fish to fry, but whatever.  

As for Obama, Artist, he's not as liberal as Hillary, but he's still a liberal.  He supports gay rights and all that jazz, it's 2007 after all.  Mr. Credibility here claims his support goes a little further than that.  Kinda funny in a sad way.

[TURobY]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

quote:Originally posted by Double A

...Da Mare?

Who?

TURobY, AA thinks it's cool to hate on Mayor Taylor.  There's bigger fish to fry, but whatever.  

Oh, I know. I just like to be facetious.

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

Oh, I know. I just like to be facetious.

Roger that.

[cannon_fodder]

I have mixed feelings on the "don't ask don't tell" policy.  I have some understanding of the military and how very close one must be at all times to your fellow soldiers.  I could see the problems an openly gay man could have/cause in a unit (think toilets 2' apart facing each other with no stalls, we're talking close living).

Tough situation.  Would a female barracks welcome a man into their shower?  Not analogous of course, but it hints at the problems.  And that's pretending no one in the barracks has a defacto problem with gays.

THEN again, the same argument was raised with integration to some extent.  Though the argument that a black man was any different than a white man was fictitious, and there could be some merit to the notion of a gay man enjoying his trip to the showers (I would in a female barrack so...).  Argh.

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little
As for Obama, Artist, he's not as liberal as Hillary, but he's still a liberal.  

He is more liberal than Hillary. That is one of the good things about him.

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

[Conan71]

Bill's 1992 campaign promises to the gay community pretty much turned into lip service.

Honestly, I wasn't trying to write a pun...

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I have mixed feelings on the "don't ask don't tell" policy.  I have some understanding of the military and how very close one must be at all times to your fellow soldiers.  I could see the problems an openly gay man could have/cause in a unit (think toilets 2' apart facing each other with no stalls, we're talking close living).

Tough situation.  Would a female barracks welcome a man into their shower?  Not analogous of course, but it hints at the problems.  And that's pretending no one in the barracks has a defacto problem with gays.

THEN again, the same argument was raised with integration to some extent.  Though the argument that a black man was any different than a white man was fictitious, and there could be some merit to the notion of a gay man enjoying his trip to the showers (I would in a female barrack so...).  Argh.

It is and it isn't like integration.  Black men and women are obviously black, and there has to be a distinct moment of integration.  "Yes, come serve with me, Person Who Is Visibly Different Than Me!"  With gay folk, they can already have been serving with distinction and simply be keeping their orientation secret.

But it is like integration in that at some point the personal prejudices of each soldier -- whether they do or do not like gays -- should cease to matter. IMO, that's why Clinton gets failing marks for DADT . . . he allowed a vocal and bigotted minority to control a policy that, as Commander in Chief, he had every right to insist on.