Clinton on Fox last night...

[iplaw]

Did anyone catch her last night?  I saw the last segments right before Miller and I thought she came across as very friendly.  She clearly had him stumped with a few of her answers and the facial expressions on both of them were priceless.

I wonder how long it's going to be before O gets in there and answers some questions.  FYI, Bill has him on tape agreeing to an interview.  We'll see if he keeps his word.

The biggest loser in all of this though are the hate sites like dailykos who have been bascially threatening the candidates if they participate with Fox...what a ringing endorsement for the First Amendment these idiots are...

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw


The biggest loser in all of this though are the hate sites like dailykos who have been bascially threatening the candidates if they participate with Fox...what a ringing endorsement for the First Amendment these idiots are...

Countdown until moron AOX attacks you for attacking his treasured source of information..3...2...1

[Gaspar]

I thought she did extremely well last night.  She was able to dodge the questions about how she would pay for Hil-Care, but she used humor and stood up well to O'Riley!

I was impressed.  

[mrhaskellok]

Was a good interview...here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ISWUXT9V6g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9X_nnEJmHM

[rwarn17588]

Too bad she didn't do that when, you know, she had a decent chance at gaining some sort of lead somewhere in the vote totals, delegate counts, states won, etc., etc.

Countdown to RM coming to defend his lady. 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Too bad she didn't do that when, you know, she had a decent chance at gaining some sort of lead somewhere in the vote totals, delegate counts, states won, etc., etc.

Countdown to RM coming to defend his lady. 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

He may not be able to comment at the moment. . .

[mrhaskellok]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Too bad she didn't do that when, you know, she had a decent chance at gaining some sort of lead somewhere in the vote totals, delegate counts, states won, etc., etc.

Countdown to RM coming to defend his lady. 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

He may not be able to comment at the moment. . .

Sick...

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw


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The biggest loser in all of this though are the hate sites like dailykos who have been bascially threatening the candidates if they participate with Fox...what a ringing endorsement for the First Amendment these idiots are...

Actually, as a person who goes there from time to time, I can assure you that although Fox is indeed despised, there is hardly a consensus of opinion there on whether Dem candidates should be interviewed on the network.

There was considerable amount of praise for Obama appearing on "Fox News Sunday" last week because it's consistent with his message of gaining support from a wide spectrum of voters. This would include Fox News viewers.

Disclosure: Even though I go to DailyKos periodically, I find myself disagreeing with the posters there a good chunk of the time. Sort of like when I go to Michelle Malkin's or the Red State site. I guess I'm repelled by extremists of both sides.

Andrew Sullivan (a thoughtful libertarian / conservative) is probably closest to my views, although I'm not in agreement with him 100 percent, either.

[iplaw]

My point was that they've been threatening both Democratic candidates with withholding money and support if they dared to talk with Fox.

Fox has incredibly high viewership and to think it wouldn't benefit any candidate to interact with them makes absolutely no sense.

As far as being despised, success tends to engender that in your competition.  Alan Colmes had good commentary last night on how childish it is for candidates to avoid Fox, and although he's paid by Fox, he's an on-fire liberal...

Many far left people are contributors, and rarely do you see interviews or debates where the left isn't fairly represented by people like Bob Beckle, Harold Ford Jr., Geraldo, ect...

I enjoy Sullivan too, The Conservative Soul was a good read.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

My point was that they've been threatening both Democratic candidates with withholding money and support if they dared to talk with Fox.

That rings hollow. You think those same far-left people are gonna vote for or give money to McCain if Obama and Clinton go on Fox once in a while?

Me, neither.

I'm feeling pretty good about these slate of candidates that remain. At the least, we'll have someone in the White House that's a more thoughtful (not that it's hard compared to the current guy) and isn't in bed with the neo-conservative crazies.

Either way, it's apparent that the American people -- Republicans included -- think the nation's top leadership has gone far too right, and now the pendulum is swinging the other way. A few Republicans still complain that McCain is a RINO, but he's what the party desperately needed.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

My point was that they've been threatening both Democratic candidates with withholding money and support if they dared to talk with Fox.

Fox has incredibly high viewership and to think it wouldn't benefit any candidate to interact with them makes absolutely no sense.

As far as being despised, success tends to engender that in your competition.  Alan Colmes had good commentary last night on how childish it is for candidates to avoid Fox, and although he's paid by Fox, he's an on-fire liberal...

Many far left people are contributors, and rarely do you see interviews or debates where the left isn't fairly represented by people like Bob Beckle, Harold Ford Jr., Geraldo, ect...

I enjoy Sullivan too, The Conservative Soul was a good read.

I would say that as the #1 cable news network with an international viewership, it would be very silly for any candidate to turn down an opportunity for that exposure.

These are presidential candidates.  If they feel like they can't stand up to media scrutiny, they have no business being leader of the free world!

Obama's long-time boycott of Fox, culminating in an agreement to appear last week, that turned into a pathetic pander-fest is proof that once the vail is lifted, the wizard is only a charlatan.

On the other hand, Hillary's strong performance on O'Riley last night will likely boost her ratings with the undecided.  More people view the O'Riley factor than any other show in that time-slot.  She did a very good thing for herself!




By Marisa Guthrie -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/4/2008 5:11:00 PM

Fox News Channel once again ended the year as cable's top news network, followed by CNN, with few radical ratings dips or surges for either network. But among the channels with smaller audience totals -- MSNBC, CNBC and CNN Headline News -- 2007 was a year of growth.

For the year in primetime, Fox News was the No. 6-ranked cable channel behind USA Network, TNT, ESPN, TBS and Lifetime Television. That's two notches higher than its ranking last year. CNN, its closest news competitor, was No. 26, down one.

Fox News was down 1% in total viewers in total day and 3% in the 25-54 demographic, but it still boasted most of the top-rated shows on cable news led by The O'Reilly Factor, which has been No. 1 in its 8 p.m. time slot for 85 consecutive months.

Countries with Fox News viewership:

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

My point was that they've been threatening both Democratic candidates with withholding money and support if they dared to talk with Fox.

That rings hollow. You think those same far-left people are gonna vote for or give money to McCain if Obama and Clinton go on Fox once in a while?

Me, neither.

I'm feeling pretty good about these slate of candidates that remain. At the least, we'll have someone in the White House that's a more thoughtful (not that it's hard compared to the current guy) and isn't in bed with the neo-conservative crazies.

Either way, it's apparent that the American people -- Republicans included -- think the nation's top leadership has gone far too right, and now the pendulum is swinging the other way. A few Republicans still complain that McCain is a RINO, but he's what the party desperately needed.

I still think you're missing my point, or I'm not making myself clear.  You do know that Soros, who owns media matters and moveon warned these candidates not to speak with Fox, and he controls massive amounts of money that pour through these 527s (Thanks McCain!).  

If you don't believe me, watch for the Soros machine to turn against Clinton in the next week or two.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

I still think you're missing my point, or I'm not making myself clear.  You do know that Soros, who owns media matters and moveon warned these candidates not to speak with Fox, and he controls massive amounts of money that pour through these 527s (Thanks McCain!).  

If you don't believe me, watch for the Soros machine to turn against Clinton in the next week or two.
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Feh. Soros is given far too much credit.

Besides, both Clinton and Obama have spoken to Fox in the past week. Who's he gonna boycott?

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

I still think you're missing my point, or I'm not making myself clear.  You do know that Soros, who owns media matters and moveon warned these candidates not to speak with Fox, and he controls massive amounts of money that pour through these 527s (Thanks McCain!).  

If you don't believe me, watch for the Soros machine to turn against Clinton in the next week or two.

Soros is no joke.  He's incredibly wealthy and motivated, and it's not necessarily just him, he's created quite a media machine himself.

I think there's a real chance that he's going to withhold from both of them in the short term, though I think Clinton will bear much of the brunt because Obama is much more in line politically with Soros than Clinton is.


Feh. Soros is given far too much credit.

Besides, both Clinton and Obama have spoken to Fox in the past week. Who's he gonna boycott?
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[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

I still think you're missing my point, or I'm not making myself clear.  You do know that Soros, who owns media matters and moveon warned these candidates not to speak with Fox, and he controls massive amounts of money that pour through these 527s (Thanks McCain!).  

If you don't believe me, watch for the Soros machine to turn against Clinton in the next week or two.

Soros is no joke.  He's incredibly wealthy and motivated, and it's not necessarily just him, he's created quite a media machine himself.

I think there's a real chance that he's going to withhold from both of them in the short term, though I think Clinton will bear much of the brunt because Obama is much more in line politically with Soros than Clinton is.


Feh. Soros is given far too much credit.

Besides, both Clinton and Obama have spoken to Fox in the past week. Who's he gonna boycott?

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Soros has already dropped clinton.  He's thrown all of his outlets behind Obama.