Proposed City Budget

[RecycleMichael]

Tulsa has the lowest flood insurance rates in the country.

Sorry I don't believe you that several council meetings were held without minutes. I think you are again confused.

What is your crack about recycling for China? None of the materials that we collect locally goes to China, but I do appreciate you trying to creatively insult me.

[shadows]

RWAM 17588:quoted : This is hilarious.

On the same day shadows rails against the storm water fee, it rains more than 3 inches in Red Fork -- and it's still raining as I write this. And, as usual, there's no local flooding.

Every time shadows shakes his fist at the storm water system on TulsaNow, we get a deluge that justifies its existence.

Tell you what, shadows. Stop ranting about it for a week or so. My garden could use some drying-out time.

Just to bring you to an updated time, page 69 of Aero Products Research (Meteorology} "individual thunderstorms varies in diameter from 5 to 10 miles......With duration of up to 1.5 hours.  Thunderstorms do cluster in 2 or more sometimes covering over 100 miles

The city of Tulsa has a coverage of over 240 square miles.   It is possible and does happen that localized areas will receive cloud bursts that causes localized flooding.  

The city has a past history of this happening where local flooding has occurred.  Just be informed where the 3' of measured rainfall occurred before having a good laugh because you were not flooded.

The flood on the Arkansas in 86' was because the inflow was not reported accurately until the water had to be turned loose.  The areas below the dam, where the most flooding occurred, received very little rainfall.  I was in the Weather Bureau as that tropical storm was moving west of Red Fork in a NW path.

Meteorology is not an exact science. If you believe you have the solution you could check in with the TV stations. They need some help on flood watches.
 







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[shadows]

RM:  There no reflection on your integrity as if you have any control over the spot market of recyclables, as the weak dollar and China with gobs of them, is having great prosperity in buying large quantities of our throw-a-ways and send them back to us as finished products.    While we concentrate on where a ball player is going to play, China's interest is in wearing out our paper money printing presses, printing phony dollars. I am not trying to insult you or intimidate you but we are helping China become the leader in trade which has always  controlled the world.    

We can always nuke them but  they have an overpopulation and they need a war to reduce by lottery their population.  But remember if we send some on three of four cities it will make little difference in their population but we will have about 30 minutes to dig us a fraidy hole and if they took out three of our large cities it would make quite a difference.

I attended some of the first council meetings where I was the only civilian present and there was no sectary that took minutes there.  I was ask at one of the meeting if I had anything to say.  Ms Green, the retired city sectary could tell you that I quite often examined the city ledger on the minutes kept.  Check on the first council sectary that kept their minutes.   I been there.

[shadows]

My concern is based on we are rapidly going to socialism in structuring all our governments.   The self appointed elitist (intellectuals) increasing the creating the governmental jobs, is a well marked road to communism.  The article in the last week World pointed out the influx of government paid workers made OKC first for having the most employees on the taxpayer's parole.

If you look over the past budgets it is easy to see why everyone wants to be on an unrestricted government pay role.  Since we have been discussion SWM with its multimillion dollar budget (to farm out the mowing of the grass in the retention ponds) we have one supervisor at $165,000 and 5 assistants which I presume are driving high priced take home city cars using city gasoline.

While you are at it give the name (are public records) and of the experience of those SWM boards.  

Also if the temp SWM fee is a use fee or a property tax on property in Tulsa.

There has always been a point in all governments to make changes.  We should be intelligent enough by now to seek a peaceful solution and revert back to a reprehensive government of the people and reduce the fee's and taxes on the working poor or make the minimum wage the posted average wage.

In the meanwhile we could just stamp "yes" on the mayors budget and save the wear and tear on the squirming councilors  chairs, that would dare vote against this advanced socialism. We need to create more city jobs??.  

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by shadows
Ms Green, the retired city sectary could tell you that I quite often examined the city ledger on the minutes kept.  Check on the first council sectary that kept their minutes.  

I haven't thought of Hettie Green for years. She was the best.