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Talk About Tulsa => Development & New Businesses => Topic started by: patric on November 16, 2024, 08:52:04 AM

Title: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: patric on November 16, 2024, 08:52:04 AM
Clayco Wins EPC Contract for $620M Solar Wafer Plant in Tulsa.

Norwegian monocrystalline solar wafer producer NorSun AS signed an engineering, procurement and construction contract with Clayco for its $620-million silicon ingot and solar wafer manufacturing plant in Tulsa, Okla., the companies said.

NorSun announced in June it plans to build a 5-GW plant at the site, a 60-acre greenfield location at the Mingo Development Area near Tulsa International Airport. There is room at the site to potentially expand the plant capacity to 10 GW in the future.

Construction is set to start next year for production to begin in 2026, according to NorSun.

The plant would be among the first facilities in the U.S. producing its components, according to the Oklahoma Dept. of Commerce, which helped facilitate the development. The project "marks a major step in rebuilding the U.S. solar value chain," said Anthony Johnson, president of Clayco's industrial business unit, in a statement.


(https://www.enr.com/ext/resources/2024/11/15/NorSun_Tulsa_render_ENRweb.jpg?1731703112)

I thought there might have already been a topic on this but I may have been thinking of the Inola plant: https://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=22014.msg339054#msg339054

Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on November 16, 2024, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: patric on November 16, 2024, 08:52:04 AMClayco Wins EPC Contract for $620M Solar Wafer Plant in Tulsa.

Norwegian monocrystalline solar wafer producer NorSun AS signed an engineering, procurement and construction contract with Clayco for its $620-million silicon ingot and solar wafer manufacturing plant in Tulsa, Okla., the companies said.

NorSun announced in June it plans to build a 5-GW plant at the site, a 60-acre greenfield location at the Mingo Development Area near Tulsa International Airport. There is room at the site to potentially expand the plant capacity to 10 GW in the future.

Construction is set to start next year for production to begin in 2026, according to NorSun.

The plant would be among the first facilities in the U.S. producing its components, according to the Oklahoma Dept. of Commerce, which helped facilitate the development. The project "marks a major step in rebuilding the U.S. solar value chain," said Anthony Johnson, president of Clayco's industrial business unit, in a statement.


(https://www.enr.com/ext/resources/2024/11/15/NorSun_Tulsa_render_ENRweb.jpg?1731703112)

I thought there might have already been a topic on this but I may have been thinking of the Inola plant: https://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=22014.msg339054#msg339054




Big hat.  No cattle.


Where is the water going to come from??

Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: patric on November 16, 2024, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 16, 2024, 06:49:24 PMBig hat.  No cattle.

Where is the water going to come from??


Warm water drain pipe from a data center?

Just kidding. Quite possibly our drinking water?

Its not like they will be testing rocket engines or something...
Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on November 18, 2024, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: patric on November 16, 2024, 09:46:45 PMWarm water drain pipe from a data center?

Just kidding. Quite possibly our drinking water?

Its not like they will be testing rocket engines or something...

Semiconductors take a lot of water to manufacture.  And solar cells are semiconductors.
Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on November 18, 2024, 02:51:27 PM
Intel and TSMC plants here have their own water treatment facilities at the plants and are currently reuse/recalim 65% of the water that they use.

The newest Intel plant in Chandler uses grey water from the City Of Chandler processes and purifies it for production use and the water that is returned to the city is treated before it's sent to the city which then uses a reverse osmosis process and then injects the water into aquiffers to bank the water back into the well systems that provide the city with water.

https://businessforwater.org/stories/story-005 (https://businessforwater.org/stories/story-005)

https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/13/intels_net_positive_water_use/ (https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/13/intels_net_positive_water_use/)

https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/water-wars/how-much-water-do-semiconductor-chipmaking-plants-use-arizona-tsmc-fabs/75-bddc3623-b247-408f-a618-19055456009d (https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/water-wars/how-much-water-do-semiconductor-chipmaking-plants-use-arizona-tsmc-fabs/75-bddc3623-b247-408f-a618-19055456009d)
Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: patric on November 18, 2024, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on November 18, 2024, 02:51:27 PMIntel and TSMC plants here have their own water treatment facilities at the plants and are currently reuse/recalim 65% of the water that they use.

The newest Intel plant in Chandler uses grey water from the City Of Chandler processes and purifies it for production use and the water that is returned to the city is treated before it's sent to the city which then uses a reverse osmosis process and then injects the water into aquiffers to bank the water back into the well systems that provide the city with water.


That sounds like a plan... *If* its a part of the plan.  Im not going to assume that it is, or will be, in light of the current prospects of environmental regulations being rolled back in the interest of being "pro business."
Aside from those concerns, I would like to see more of our legacy petroleum industry expertise transition to technologies that have a brighter future.
Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on November 18, 2024, 07:43:31 PM
Quote from: patric on November 18, 2024, 04:38:45 PMThat sounds like a plan... *If* its a part of the plan.  Im not going to assume that it is, or will be, in light of the current prospects of environmental regulations being rolled back in the interest of being "pro business."
Aside from those concerns, I would like to see more of our legacy petroleum industry expertise transition to technologies that have a brighter future.

The petroleum industry has been a part especially for wind turbines by developing  highly refined synthetic oils for the mechanical transmission equipment in the nacelle to specialty lubricants for the yaw drive.

A typical 5MW turbine uses about 700 gallons of oil that is changed every 9 to 16 months.

I doubt seriously that any manufacturing industry or other industries that have invested billions to meet or exceed environmental regulations will suddenly quit using that technology and I doubt very seriously any new businesses will push for being allowed to create a new version of Love Canal.
Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: patric on December 23, 2024, 11:15:49 AM
Just six months after announcing plans to open its first American manufacturing facility in Tulsa, European solar energy company NorSun is closing its production facility in Norway and shifting its operations here, the company announced.

NorSun is based in Oslo, Norway, and has been manufacturing its products in Ardal, Norway. The company announced in June that it plans to construct a state-of-the-art 5 gigawatt ingot and wafer factory in Tulsa that will employ approximately 320 people.

The project, which will be constructed on Tulsa International Airport property east of Mingo Road and west of U.S. 169, is expected to break ground next year and take approximately two years to complete once building begins.


More: https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/government-politics/solar-company-norsun-to-close-its-norway-facility-make-tulsa-its-manufacturing-hub/article_2f2e3fe6-bf26-11ef-a46d-cf1373701461.html
Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: Urban Enthusiast on February 18, 2025, 05:23:37 PM
I wonder if this will ever come to fruition?  I sort of doubt it.  It seems none of the "big" developments ever seem to materialize. 
Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: patric on February 18, 2025, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: Urban Enthusiast on February 18, 2025, 05:23:37 PMI wonder if this will ever come to fruition?  I sort of doubt it.  It seems none of the "big" developments ever seem to materialize. 

It still might stand a chance as long as the legislature doesnt run them off for supporting pride week ;-)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/business/2025/02/14/ryan-walters-news-oklahoma-far-right-politics-impacts-business/78532529007/
Title: Re: Solar wafer manufacturing near TUL
Post by: SXSW on February 18, 2025, 10:46:14 PM
Everything I've heard is that it's still happening and will break ground this year.  This and LTCS which just started construction on its new larger facility at TIA will bring over 800 new engineering/manufacturing jobs to Tulsa over the next 3-5 years.