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Started by pmcalk, February 27, 2007, 08:56:09 AM

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Hoss

I just got back from a short trip this weekend to Shreveport-Bossier City, and had an epiphany...

Why not do something like Bossier City has done with their riverfront?

http://www.louisianaboardwalk.com/

Put this thing within walking distance of the arena and other downtown attractions, and it's on.  I don't know where you could put it where there is open land, but I was quite impressed with what they did with that parcel of land.

Double A

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While I understand the desire to incorporate this into the comp plan, I don't think river zoning needs to wait.  Just like a neighborhood infill plan could be incoporated into the comp plan, I think a good plan for the river would dovetail into the overall comp plan.  

In fact, if the river really is key to Tulsa's future, then it only makes sense to make it a priority, and start there.  I wouldn't want to wait 5 years (for the comp plan) for river zoning to be approved...the river could be totally destroyed by then.  Let's start today, get it right, and get it done.



I worry that this will overshadow and divert resources away from the Comp Plan Update. I don't want to see the rest of the city get screwed because everybody is focused on the river.



Well you could wait... In the meantime you could have a 17 mile stretch of B*tt Ugly..........
With a capital B & U.......! Highlighting Riverside Drive...

This is something that should have caught the attention of the City decades ago... The time is right for this to happen... You have an Administration and Council that understands these priorities.......

Take full advantage of this..
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Charles Norman is way ahead of you. Word is after Da Mare directed the TMAPC to develop river corridor zoning, Wayne "brain drain" Alberty took it upon himself to appoint up some sort of task force or steering committee to guide this process and guess who he tapped to head it up? None other than Charles Norman, the guy who gave us the disaster of a zoning code we have now, whose clients are the developers trying to destroy the McBirney Mansion. Talk about a conflict of interest, not that the Crypt Keeper has ever found conflict of interests to be unethical.

Knowing what I know about the start this process has gotten off to, I give it a big vote of no confidence, because it looks like it might turn out to be one big con.

City planning and the TMAPC should handle this.  INCOG, Alberty, and Norman should stay the hell out of it. They have f#*ked things up enough already.
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Originally posted by Hoss

I just got back from a short trip this weekend to Shreveport-Bossier City, and had an epiphany...

Why not do something like Bossier City has done with their riverfront?

http://www.louisianaboardwalk.com/

Put this thing within walking distance of the arena and other downtown attractions, and it's on.  I don't know where you could put it where there is open land, but I was quite impressed with what they did with that parcel of land.



I know since we don't have anything along our river, that something like that looks really nice and would be an improvement. But I hope ours will include mixed use like living, will have structured parking, and be urban not suburban.  My hope is that ours will be more like real city streets, theirs leans more to the "outdoor shopping mall" end of things. In the video you do get one good idea of how to harden the shorelines. I really hope we harden the shorelines on the west side near downtown and have buildings fronting that hardened shoreline.

I don't want rinky dink along our river near downtown. We shouldn't be thinking of our best river front area as being something like in Bossier City or Jenks.  This is our first best shot at doing something great along the river there. WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT. I would like it to be more like this....

 http://www.thebridgesofsaintpaul.com/b07.html#

Lets be bold with this. Lets please not do something that will limit our imagination and set the bar low. Even if it means a developer could only build one or two buildings at first. I would rather have a good start, that sets the direction for something great. In many cities, certain parts of the urban setting, buildings are required to have 6 stories.  This is recognized as the gold standard to create the best urban environment. Having the proper living density to sustain a thriving street level community. (Paris was I believe the first city to have that kind of ordinance in place, recently I think Toronto has made such an ordinance). I dont' know if we could manage something like that, perhaps a minimum of 3 and 4 story buildings, but I sure don't want a river lined with one and 2 story shopping centers in our urban core.

Urban not Suburban.  And city urban not small town "suburban urban". There is a difference lol
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