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Started by sgrizzle, March 13, 2013, 09:13:12 AM

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Townsend

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Quote from: DTowner on March 18, 2013, 04:06:43 PM

Creek Nation plans new 22-story hotel, other additions at River Spirit location



Maybe they know they'll soon be able to river taxi their guests back and forth to Riverwalk.


davideinstein

Just what our economy needs. A huge casino.

::)

joiei

They already have the casino.   I am just wondering how they plan on keeping the palm trees green during the first ice storm.  I don't mind the Margaritaville nameplate,  they do a good job at Pensacola Beach without a casino.  http://www.margaritavillehotel.com/
It's hard being a Diamond in a rhinestone world.

sgrizzle

This looks nothing like the current casino, and I had heard that land won't sustain anything taller than about 50'

Not a big casino person, but if they're going to do one, they should go big like the Cherokees did.

Conan71

Quote from: joiei on March 18, 2013, 05:17:36 PM
They already have the casino.   I am just wondering how they plan on keeping the palm trees green during the first ice storm.  I don't mind the Margaritaville nameplate,  they do a good job at Pensacola Beach without a casino.  http://www.margaritavillehotel.com/

Maybe they will resort to tacky neon palm trees or metal cut-outs.
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patric

Quote from: sgrizzle on March 18, 2013, 05:33:50 PM
This looks nothing like the current casino, and I had heard that land won't sustain anything taller than about 50'

You would be amazed at what you could do if you dont have to follow city or state codes.
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TheArtist

Quote from: sgrizzle on March 18, 2013, 05:33:50 PM
This looks nothing like the current casino, and I had heard that land won't sustain anything taller than about 50'

Not a big casino person, but if they're going to do one, they should go big like the Cherokees did.

The area they are in can't be much different underground/bedrockwise than the Cityplex and I am faaairly certain that is over 50'.  Not to mention the hotel a few blocks away by the Wal-Mart.
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AquaMan

The $250 million total expansion is projected to add 800 new jobs and 1,800 construction jobs through 2014, according to a Creek Nation press release.

The combined, annual economic impact is projected to be about $135 million with an annual payroll of about $38 million, according a report prepared by the Tulsa Regional Chamber.


Are these net figures? Doubtful. Tulsa hasn't grown enough that this doesn't just represent taking economics from existing business. Unless we are entering into the realm of a casino destination city, then goodbye to quality of life.

BTW, you could build as high as you want along the river as long as you go down far enough to find a suitable base, and are unencumbered by government. Expensive, but then its only tribal money.
onward...through the fog

Townsend


AquaMan

Note the small river taxi in bottom right corner.

These planners have a lot more faith in river control and the possible construction of a dam at Jenks than I do. Its like they've never seen 300,000 cfs coming down that area.

But, you gotta' have dreams.
onward...through the fog

SXSW

This hotel project has been rumored for a few years, and is why the newer parking garage was built so large in the first place.  I am most interested in what they do with the trail.  It looks like it will bridge the creek there which is great.  This could be a nice play for visitors to stay in south Tulsa, especially in the spring/summer with that pool.
 

DTowner

As I recall, the Creeks originally planned to build a hotel in conjunction with the River Spirit Casino, but delayed the hotel portion due to funding/economic conditions at the time.  Clearly, this is an attempt to broaden the customer base by making River Spirit much more of a destination resort type casino. 

Ibanez

Are they going to do something to dress up the existing casino? As it is now it looks like something Rust-Oleum put up to show how their products stand up to weather.

carltonplace

Margaritaville and Palm trees. Classy. Southies will flock here.

Townsend

Quote from: carltonplace on March 19, 2013, 10:39:51 AM
Margaritaville and Palm trees. Classy. Southies will flock here.

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