Dewey 2.0

[DTowner]

Outrage over green waste should be directed at contractor - they didn't deliver what they promised.  If I choose not to mulch my grass and leaves, but bagged it up, then I should pay $.50 per bag.  If I didn't care enough to mulch/compost it at my house, then I probably don't care whether it's burned, composted or landfilled once it's hauled away.

[guido911]

i actually like that and agree. Tulsa is Dewey. At least south and east of midtown and west of the river.

I was not even thinking that. Just the "I won" mentality O gave the opposition.

[patric]

Dewey 2.0 is going to be much that same as 1.0. he's already going straight for stupid by threatening the FOP and firefighters union.
http://www.ktul.com/story/23964147/mayor-to-unions-you-should-have-stayed-neutral

Read that story closer; he merely responded to a loaded question from KTUL that looks spoon-fed from the union.

"Politics and political retaliation and stuff like that I don't think is something that any mayor would ever consider when it comes to law enforcement," said Caswell.

It's sour grapes.  Maybe 8 is whoring themselves for more ride-alongs?

[RecycleMichael]

Outrage over green waste should be directed at contractor - they didn't deliver what they promised.  If I choose not to mulch my grass and leaves, but bagged it up, then I should pay $.50 per bag.  If I didn't care enough to mulch/compost it at my house, then I probably don't care whether it's burned, composted or landfilled once it's hauled away.

First of all, there was no contractor. The City of Tulsa crews were in charge of green waste. Yes, they didn't delivered what was promised.

Secondly, I know a number of people who specifically bought clear bags and stickers just because they thought it was going to the green waste site. They knew they could have just as easily put in in the gray cart to be burned but wanted to be environmental and went through the extra expense and effort only because they thought it was being composted. 

[AquaMan]

I have no problem with my trash guys other than they refused to pick up my neighbor's bags even though they bought the right bags and stickers. And the new trucks are great. I would remind you both, that it was the failure to tell customers that they were paying for something they weren't receiving that was the problem. They continued to charge folks and our Mayor, who should have known (if the guys hauling the trash knew) says, "I knew nothing. NOTHING!" that po'd people.

[sgrizzle]

Outrage over green waste should be directed at contractor - they didn't deliver what they promised.  If I choose not to mulch my grass and leaves, but bagged it up, then I should pay $.50 per bag.  If I didn't care enough to mulch/compost it at my house, then I probably don't care whether it's burned, composted or landfilled once it's hauled away.

The green waste was picked up and delivered to the trash to energy site by City employees. No contractor was involved in green waste.

[guido911]

The green waste was picked up and delivered to the trash to energy site by City employees. No contractor was involved in green waste.

Was this "green waste" issue really that big to the electorate?

[heironymouspasparagus]

i actually like that and agree. Tulsa is Dewey. At least south and east of midtown and west of the river.

How sad is that...??

[DTowner]

The green waste was picked up and delivered to the trash to energy site by City employees. No contractor was involved in green waste.

Wasn't it the contractor that was supposed to have the equipment to rip open the green wast bags, etc.?  It was only after that equipment failed that city crews began taking it to be burned.  We didn't get what we were promised, and those folks should be held accountable.  I paid extra to have my green waste hauled off - that seems fair.  Wish it had been composted, but since I couldn't be bothered to do it myself, I wan't very committed to the cause.

[patric]

Wasn't it the contractor that was supposed to have the equipment to rip open the green wast bags, etc.?  It was only after that equipment failed that city crews began taking it to be burned.  We didn't get what we were promised, and those folks should be held accountable.  I paid extra to have my green waste hauled off - that seems fair.  Wish it had been composted, but since I couldn't be bothered to do it myself, I wan't very committed to the cause.

Streets and Stormwater Division Manager Roy Teeters said the city's yard-waste mulching plant recently tested, with limited success, new equipment intended to remove the plastic bags in which curbside trash customers are asked to place excess yard waste.

A similar trommel screen was tested unsuccessfully in weeks surrounding the Oct. 1, 2012, start of the new curbside trash program, leading to a decision to divert bags of yard waste from the mulching site to the trash-to-energy incinerator.

Tulsa's trash board contracted with independent hauler NeWSolutions for curbside trash and recycling pickup but opted to use city crews for yard waste, hoping to collect usage data and eventually determine whether there was a better long-term solution for keeping yard waste separate from other trash.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/green-solution-still-sought-for-tulsa-s-green-waste-problem/article_37d8384e-3b94-11e3-9c05-0019bb30f31a.html

[AquaMan]

Front page World poll story this morning on the subject (subscribe or read it online). Even though the headline says people are happy with the system in general, 62.5% object to the city burning the green waste. They also feel like they should get refunds and are unhappy that they were not told it was being burned. So, yes, nearly 2/3 of the population feel it was important and badly handled.

Wonder why Fox didn't pick up on this majority view? Or Gas? Or Guido?  No offense guys, its just that views from inside the cocoon are different than outside.

[Gaspar]

Considering ACA has only managed to hit 20% of it's goal of new enrollees to this point, that's a staggering failure.

The trash "problem" is that yard waste ended up being turned into steam and Dooey didn't know that.  BFD.  It's not like piles of trash are sitting on the curb waiting to be picked up. 

I still have plenty of compost, how about you?

Anyone realizing a shortage of compost?

Anyone's compost bill go up by 100%?

Ok, we can move on now. 

[Conan71]

We mulch our leaves and grass and compost our food waste, no shortages here.  What exactly was the city going to do with this giant compost pile in the first place?  Were they going to distribute it back out?

Otherwise, it's being recycled into steam which I believe is then sold to the Holly refinery.  That's still a good re-use of yard waste.  I don't think there's any more environmental impact by burning it vs. composting as both methods of disposal do release various emission gas.

[Gaspar]

We mulch our leaves and grass and compost our food waste, no shortages here.  What exactly was the city going to do with this giant compost pile in the first place?  Were they going to distribute it back out?

Otherwise, it's being recycled into steam which I believe is then sold to the Holly refinery.  That's still a good re-use of yard waste.  I don't think there's any more environmental impact by burning it vs. composting as both methods of disposal do release various emission gas.

[AquaMan]

Part of being an adult is recognizing and admitting when you've made a mistake. Dewey doesn't and isn't and apparently there are a few candidates on this forum as well.

I am glad there's no shortage of compost. Very comforting.