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Started by patric, April 03, 2022, 10:38:34 PM

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patric

Ive been in the habit now of doing laundry and dishes in the middle of the day when the sun is brightest because the electricity is free, and noticed my generation was a bit lower than normal...

TULSA, Okla. — In the aftermath of Sunday's severe weather, many people woke up to vehicles covered in dirt.
FOX23's certified meteorologist Mike Grogan said this is due to a dust storm from new Mexico mixing in with Sunday night's weather creating a mud rain.


So yeah, when it rains mud you have to rinse off the solar panels, too.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

dbacksfan 2.0


patric

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Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on February 28, 2023, 09:31:45 PM
No kidding. Yeah, we get something like that everey now and then.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/07/11/arizona-resembles-mars-as-mile-high-wall-of-dust-barrels-through-phoenix/?sh=2286ddff5687[/url]

A window cleaning mop on a long pole is a necessity... I almost doubled my output just cleaning today (was kind of dirty).


Been looking for those 20' telescoping mops where the telescoping part carries water to the mop.

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

With demand being so high, you dont expect to see this:

"Dear Valued Customer,

We hope this message finds you well. We are reaching out to provide an important update regarding the status of Solar Power of Oklahoma (SPO) and your ongoing project.

SPO has proudly served over 5,000 customers during our 7 years in business, always holding the highest regard for our customers. Unfortunately, due to the impact of rising interest rates and inflationary costs, we have encountered significant financial challenges. Despite our best efforts, we have come to the difficult decision that SPO will no longer be able to continue operations.

Our immediate priority is to ensure that all customers who have made down payments for their systems receive their installations without any loss of their down payments. To facilitate this, we must revise our payment structure to protect both our customers and the subcontractors completing these projects.

Moving forward, once your installation is scheduled, we will provide you with a quote for the necessary equipment. You will be required to make a payment directly to the supplier for the equipment one week prior to installation, with the remaining balance due at the time of installation. This approach will allow us to retain subcontracted labor to complete all outstanding contracts."


I know that Tesla solar has been having a lot of problems finding battery suppliers, but they are just one player in a big field.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

dbacksfan 2.0

Quote from: patric on June 25, 2024, 05:24:45 PM
With demand being so high, you dont expect to see this:

"Dear Valued Customer,

We hope this message finds you well. We are reaching out to provide an important update regarding the status of Solar Power of Oklahoma (SPO) and your ongoing project.

SPO has proudly served over 5,000 customers during our 7 years in business, always holding the highest regard for our customers. Unfortunately, due to the impact of rising interest rates and inflationary costs, we have encountered significant financial challenges. Despite our best efforts, we have come to the difficult decision that SPO will no longer be able to continue operations.

Our immediate priority is to ensure that all customers who have made down payments for their systems receive their installations without any loss of their down payments. To facilitate this, we must revise our payment structure to protect both our customers and the subcontractors completing these projects.

Moving forward, once your installation is scheduled, we will provide you with a quote for the necessary equipment. You will be required to make a payment directly to the supplier for the equipment one week prior to installation, with the remaining balance due at the time of installation. This approach will allow us to retain subcontracted labor to complete all outstanding contracts."


I know that Tesla solar has been having a lot of problems finding battery suppliers, but they are just one player in a big field.

There have been two residential installers close up since January this year citing similar issues.

https://www.yourvalley.net/stories/titan-solar-to-close-arizona-operations,517446#:~:text=Titan%20Solar%2C%20a%20one%2Dtime,according%20to%20multiple%20media%20reports.

https://www.abc15.com/news/business/phoenix-solar-company-ceases-operations-files-for-bankruptcy#:~:text=PHOENIX%20%E2%80%94%20A%20Phoenix%2Dbased%20solar,and%20filed%20for%20bankruptcy%20protection.

patric

Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on June 25, 2024, 07:20:03 PM
There have been two residential installers close up since January this year citing similar issues.

https://www.yourvalley.net/stories/titan-solar-to-close-arizona-operations,517446#:~:text=Titan%20Solar%2C%20a%20one%2Dtime,according%20to%20multiple%20media%20reports.

https://www.abc15.com/news/business/phoenix-solar-company-ceases-operations-files-for-bankruptcy#:~:text=PHOENIX%20%E2%80%94%20A%20Phoenix%2Dbased%20solar,and%20filed%20for%20bankruptcy%20protection.


Looking at the other closures, its not the technology that is failing them but rather the typical marketing and financing that is lacking sustainability.  The lure of making a killing selling power to the utilities entices people to make long-term contracts to host installations beyond their needs and means, entangling all the parties involved in finances over their heads.

I might argue one of the biggest ROI for solar is not having to throw out a freezer full of food because some trees blew over, but that advantage is lost when installers toe the PSO line that generating power for the utility is the only way to go. You have to dig into state statutes and OCC rules to discover otherwise.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

They are easy to install, and knock chunks off electricity bills. It may not be Romeo and Juliet, but Spain's balcony scene is heating up as the country embraces what has hitherto been a mainly German love affair with DIY plug-in solar panels.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/dec/18/if-a-million-germans-have-them-there-must-be-something-in-it-how-balcony-solar-is-taking-off#img-1 

Balcony solar panels can save 30% on a typical household's electricity bill and, with vertical surface area in cities larger than roof space, the appeal is clear. Balcony panels also benefit more than roof panels from the low winter sun.

https://external-preview.redd.it/balcony-solar-panels-can-save-30-on-a-typical-households-v0-qaqWTRY4x6E13ol66486ixzoHDwfODaXGs4vtVH3-dU.jpg

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum