Big Splash has not paid 2007 rent

[Hoss]

Hmm...the plot thickens:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080710_1__RickB54823

[waterboy]

For once the responses at the end of the story were good. All three commissioners are suspect in this soap opera and need to be held accountable. Bjorkland was responding to his bosses, just like oil and tobacco execs do, so that he could maintain a cush job and get good references. Nothing new there.

Best idea I saw was to replace the commissioners, sell the county property for profit to a private entity and move the fairgrounds to a new location. This is not the first location of our county fairgrounds. Traditionally they have been on the outskirts of the city.

[cannon_fodder]

What would moving the fairgrounds solve in this equation?  If the problem is public mismanagement, favoritism, and possible corruption it doesn't seem the location has anything to do with it.  In fact, I've heard nothing that indicates location is any sort of a problem.

Why would this guy lie?  Is blowing the whistle on former bosses a good resume builder?  I think not.

I really hope there is some proof in this, one way or another.  If Miller was indeed batting for Murphy's to this extent then clearly that is the reason Bell's was ousted and I have to wonder what else was going on.  Show me proof and then put her (them?) in prison.

[tim huntzinger]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

Hmm...the plot thickens:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080710_1__RickB54823

From T.World: 'Bjorklund said Miller, who was fair board chairwoman in 2007, spoke to him about the Big Splash situation in about June of that year.

"The conversation (with Miller) was, 'Ease up on them and get it off the radar,'?" he said.

Bjorklund said he told fair board members about Miller's instructions during the executive session held to determine his fate.

"I turned to Randi and I said: 'You had given me instructions, Randi, to get it off the radar screen, and we did that.'?''

At what point do we start talking criminal charges and/or recall or voluntary resignation? Simply voting this POS out is not an option.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

For once the responses at the end of the story were good. All three commissioners are suspect in this soap opera and need to be held accountable. Bjorkland was responding to his bosses, just like oil and tobacco execs do, so that he could maintain a cush job and get good references. Nothing new there.

Best idea I saw was to replace the commissioners, sell the county property for profit to a private entity and move the fairgrounds to a new location. This is not the first location of our county fairgrounds. Traditionally they have been on the outskirts of the city.

Overeacting a bit are we.....

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

For once the responses at the end of the story were good. All three commissioners are suspect in this soap opera and need to be held accountable. Bjorkland was responding to his bosses, just like oil and tobacco execs do, so that he could maintain a cush job and get good references. Nothing new there.

Best idea I saw was to replace the commissioners, sell the county property for profit to a private entity and move the fairgrounds to a new location. This is not the first location of our county fairgrounds. Traditionally they have been on the outskirts of the city.

Overeacting a bit are we.....

On this forum? Thanks for the compliment.

It has been seriously discussed in the past. Privatization of this property right now makes more sense now than it ever did. No amusement park, no baseball and a failing poorly maintained waterpark on the ropes. Practically a blank slate. Do it now.  If the county has a legal obligation to provide a fairgrounds it should be in an area on the edge of town or along the river where the city is not so seriously impacted. This land could be developed with the horse facilities as a centerpiece.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

For once the responses at the end of the story were good. All three commissioners are suspect in this soap opera and need to be held accountable. Bjorkland was responding to his bosses, just like oil and tobacco execs do, so that he could maintain a cush job and get good references. Nothing new there.

Best idea I saw was to replace the commissioners, sell the county property for profit to a private entity and move the fairgrounds to a new location. This is not the first location of our county fairgrounds. Traditionally they have been on the outskirts of the city.

Overeacting a bit are we.....

On this forum? Thanks for the compliment.

It has been seriously discussed in the past. Privatization of this property right now makes more sense now than it ever did. No amusement park, no baseball and a failing poorly maintained waterpark on the ropes. Practically a blank slate. Do it now.  If the county has a legal obligation to provide a fairgrounds it should be in an area on the edge of town or along the river where the city is not so seriously impacted. This land could be developed with the horse facilities as a centerpiece.

How would we ever recover the County Taxpayer's huge investment from Four-to-Fix-the-County Fairground construction projects?

Just another huge county write-off; Bell's, followed by the Driller Stadium, followed by ?? (Big Splash?).

[CoffeeBean]

Minutes are still taken of executive sessions.  It is not an excuse that the meeting is privileged.  That privilege can be waived at any time by any of the participants.  And, by denying the accusation, one might argue that Miller has waived the privilege by addressing the content of the discussions, e.g. Miller cannot use the privilege as a sword and shield to deny both the accusation and the means to verify her statement.    

Now, the questions is - were minutes taken of this executive session and, if so, how were they taken, e.g. by clerk or recording.  

If minutes were not taken, who issued that instruction?

[zstyles]

quote:Originally posted by CoffeeBean

Minutes are still taken of executive sessions.  It is not an excuse that the meeting is privileged.  That privilege can be waived at any time by any of the participants.  And, by denying the accusation, one might argue that Miller has waived the privilege by addressing the content of the discussions.  

Now, the questions is - were minutes taken of this executive session and, if so, how were they taken, e.g. by clerk or recording.  

If minutes were not taken, who issued that instruction?

You have to know that we will never know..

[CoffeeBean]

Never know what?  We can certainly know if minutes were taken.  That's not privileged.

[tim huntzinger]

Bjork is making quite the accusation, to the point of defamation or slander or something awful like that.  He cannot be so stupid as to do so without backup can he?