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Hit and runs A-OK in Tulsa!

Started by flybriz, July 25, 2008, 10:15:46 AM

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flybriz

A couple weeks ago, my mom was involved in a hit and run accident.  Thankfully she was unhurt other than some scrapes and bruises and and achy back, but her car was totalled.  Some guy in a pickup rear-ended her while she was stopped in traffic, and he drove off.  A good samaritan followed the truck and got a description plus the tag number.  My mom got a letter in the mail yesterday indicating that TPD was closing the case and not pursuing locating the guy.  I respect that they have a ton of these cases to work on, but if someone has a tag number, that seems to be relatively low-hanging fruit, wouldn't you imagine?

So be advised that if you ever get involved in an auto accident that is your fault in Tulsa, and you lack a conscience, just drive off and you'll be home free!

Hoss

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Originally posted by flybriz

A couple weeks ago, my mom was involved in a hit and run accident.  Thankfully she was unhurt other than some scrapes and bruises and and achy back, but her car was totalled.  Some guy in a pickup rear-ended her while she was stopped in traffic, and he drove off.  A good samaritan followed the truck and got a description plus the tag number.  My mom got a letter in the mail yesterday indicating that TPD was closing the case and not pursuing locating the guy.  I respect that they have a ton of these cases to work on, but if someone has a tag number, that seems to be relatively low-hanging fruit, wouldn't you imagine?

So be advised that if you ever get involved in an auto accident that is your fault in Tulsa, and you lack a conscience, just drive off and you'll be home free!



Sounds like the future home for Richard Novak!

FOTD

#2
It's that traitor ROBERT Novack.....but you are correct.

See that political thread on a special kind of stupid. the link is there.....

That neo con nut job is on record as saying he would intentionally run over a jaywalker. He said that drives him crazy. Well, this time he was true to his word.

YoungTulsan

 

tim huntzinger

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Originally posted by flybriz

...A good samaritan followed the truck and got a description plus the tag number.  My mom got a letter in the mail yesterday indicating that TPD was closing the case and not pursuing locating the guy...


No offense, but that is so outrageous I actually have a hard time believing its truthiness.

Wilbur

There are about 250 hit and runs in Tulsa every month and many get solved and prosecuted.

Having a tag number MIGHT get you to the car IF the car is still registered to the CURRENT owner.  Too often, cars have been traded in to a dealer and been bought and sold over and over again between used car dealers and auction houses, then sold to some individual who has never re-registered the car.

The second part you need for prosecution is a witness who can put someone behind the wheel.  You can't prosecute the car, you have to prosecute the driver.  If no one can testify that they can identify a driver, then there is no case to prosecute.

I would avoid the advise to drive off from a wreck.  When you are prosecuted, it's very expensive.

MDepr2007

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Originally posted by Wilbur

There are about 250 hit and runs in Tulsa every month and many get solved and prosecuted.

Having a tag number MIGHT get you to the car IF the car is still registered to the CURRENT owner.  Too often, cars have been traded in to a dealer and been bought and sold over and over again between used car dealers and auction houses, then sold to some individual who has never re-registered the car.

The second part you need for prosecution is a witness who can put someone behind the wheel.  You can't prosecute the car, you have to prosecute the driver.  If no one can testify that they can identify a driver, then there is no case to prosecute.

I would avoid the advise to drive off from a wreck.  When you are prosecuted, it's very expensive.



But as you said , if no one can id you then whats the problem?
Our DA wouldn't want to chance a possible loss against his record.

Red Arrow

If you don't own anything, you don't need insurance either. A friend of mine was hit by an uninsured motorist (several years ago) and since the other party didn't own anything, no one was interested in prosecuting.  Not the police, not the DA, no one.  The hitter never suffered any financial responsibility except the loss of his own car.  My friend had to pay to fix his car.
 

bugo

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Originally posted by Wilbur

There are about 250 hit and runs in Tulsa every month and many get solved and prosecuted.

Having a tag number MIGHT get you to the car IF the car is still registered to the CURRENT owner.  Too often, cars have been traded in to a dealer and been bought and sold over and over again between used car dealers and auction houses, then sold to some individual who has never re-registered the car.


This is why when you sell a car, you should always remove the license plate and either keep or destroy it.

Wilbur

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Originally posted by Red Arrow

If you don't own anything, you don't need insurance either. A friend of mine was hit by an uninsured motorist (several years ago) and since the other party didn't own anything, no one was interested in prosecuting.  Not the police, not the DA, no one.  The hitter never suffered any financial responsibility except the loss of his own car.  My friend had to pay to fix his car.


The driver of the car is responsible for everything on that car, even if they are not the owner.  Insurance is included in that responsibility.  Because you don't own anything has nothing to do with the requirement of insurance.

Probably the biggest offenders of this are people who test drive new cars.  The car salesmen never put a temporary tag on the car and don't carry their fleet coverage insurance, then start driving around.  The test driver is responsible for the tag and insurance.  When you go test drive a car, tell the salesman you need a temporary tag.

Wilbur

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Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by Wilbur

There are about 250 hit and runs in Tulsa every month and many get solved and prosecuted.

Having a tag number MIGHT get you to the car IF the car is still registered to the CURRENT owner.  Too often, cars have been traded in to a dealer and been bought and sold over and over again between used car dealers and auction houses, then sold to some individual who has never re-registered the car.

The second part you need for prosecution is a witness who can put someone behind the wheel.  You can't prosecute the car, you have to prosecute the driver.  If no one can testify that they can identify a driver, then there is no case to prosecute.

I would avoid the advise to drive off from a wreck.  When you are prosecuted, it's very expensive.



But as you said , if no one can id you then whats the problem?
Our DA wouldn't want to chance a possible loss against his record.


Hey.... knock yourself out.  Take your chances.  Many people do and end up in court.  Good luck.

tim huntzinger

#11
See Briz, you thought you and yer mama were special, like snowflakes.  But 250 times a month Tulsans are subjected to getting their car totalled and there is NOTHING anyone can do.  Suck it up.  Ya'll heard the man, good luck trying to get anyone to give a rats arse because unless you can do better than a vehicle description and a tag The Man is as helpless as a turtle on its back. About 3000 folks' cars are totalled annually, eight a day.  Waaaaayyyy too many to check up on.

Like when that creep killed the ten year old and there was a vehicle description and one was found a quarter mile away from where the body was dumped.  Even though the guy had a bench warrant and looked like lurch on crack, there were sooooo many matching vehicles the ossifers who 'interviewed' him just . . . walked . . . away.  Not even a call to check criminal status.  Just too many doughnuts, not enough time . . .

sauerkraut

That accident could of been a illegal alien driving. The Tulsa police looked into it and closed the book because nothing can be done then. That is why car insurance is so expensive in Tulsa. Meanwhile I see that BA police are having their first ever night time seat belt check point, while crime skyrockets and hit & runs are all over the Tulsa metro area the cops worry about seat belts- What a waste of manpower.[xx(]
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tulsavw

yup, its tough trying to find time for violent crimes with all the speeders that must be brought to justice!

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