Tulsa is the fifth best place to live

[RecycleMichael]

I think we will do better with some good draft choices, but fifth is still pretty good...

http://finance.yahoo.com/real-estate/article/105075/Charlotte-Named-Best-Place-to-Live

Relocate-America's™ Top 100 in 2008

Welcome to Relocate America's 100 Top Places To Live! 2008 marks our eleventh year compiling our list of the best places to live in the United States. This is the only list that is determined by statistics and feedback of the people who live, work & play in these communities. We're proud of our list of best places to live in 2008, and we're showing that by honoring each and every community listed here.

Throughout the calendar year, we accept nominations for cities & towns throughout the country to be considered as a "great place to live". The nominating parties must include their own reasons why they feel their city should make the list. The nominations, along with key data regarding education, employment, economy, crime, parks, recreation and housing are reviewed, rated & judged by our editorial team. Special consideration is taken on the Top 10 Cities as they are listed in a ranked order of America's Top 10 Places to Live.

Relocate-America's™ Top 10 Best Places to Live in 2008  

Charlotte, NC  
San Antonio, TX  
Chattanooga, TN  
Greenville, SC  
Tulsa, OK  
Stevens Point, WI  
Asheville, NC  
Albuquerque, NM  
Huntsville, AL  
Seattle, WA    

Relocate-America's™ Top 100 Places to Live in 2008
 
Little Rock, AR
Kingman, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Sacramento, CA
San Diego, CA
Temecula, CA
Vacaville, CA
Visalia, CA
Colorado Springs, CO
Denver, CO
Fort Collins, CO
Middletown, CT
Stamford, CT
Cape Coral, FL
Fort Myers, FL
Jacksonville, FL
Naples, FL
Ocala, FL
Sarasota, FL
Winter Park, FL
Marietta, GA
Savannah, GA
Valdosta, GA
Des Moines, IA
Spencer, IA
Boise, ID
Bloomington, IL
Chicago, IL
Lombard, IL
Evansville, IN
Fishers, IN
Greenwood, IN
Olathe, KS
Louisville, KY
Mandeville, LA
Newton, MA
Olney, MD
Portland, ME
Brighton, MI
Grand Rapids, MI
Plymouth, MI
Rochester, MI
Traverse City, MI
Rochester, MN
Woodbury, MN
O'Fallon, MO
Madison, MS
Bozeman, MT
Cary, NC
Holly Springs, NC
Indian Trail, NC
Raleigh, NC
Wilmington, NC
Omaha, NE
Nashua, NH
Westfield, NJ
Las Cruces, NM
Reno, NV
Fairport, NY
Saratoga Springs, NY
Columbus, OH
Westlake, OH
Oklahoma City, OK
Bend, OR
Portland, OR
Phoenixville, PA
Aiken, SC
Charleston, SC
Columbia, SC
Rock Hill, SC
Sioux Falls, SD
Collierville, TN
Knoxville, TN
Nashville, TN
Austin, TX
Fort Worth, TX
Houston, TX
McKinney, TX
Sugar Land, TX
St. George, UT
Charlottesville, VA
Hampton, VA
Richmond, VA
Bellingham, WA
Spokane, WA
Appleton, WI
Morgantown, WV
Casper, WY

[Conan71]

Let's see who the first person is to crap on this great news.

[joiei]

I like living here, if I didn't I would move.  After 7 years, I still find it a great place.

[Chicken Little]

Sweet.

I haven't found much on the methodology...just this

 

quote: Areas need to be nominated on the site in order to be eligible for the list; more than 2,000 were nominated this year, Nickerson said. Special efforts are made to prevent spamming campaigns from influencing the results, he added.

But the site's editorial team also takes into account an area's growth, its educational and employment opportunities, crime rates and housing options before granting it a spot in the top 100. Environmental highlights also play a role, with a city gaining points for good air and water quality or the strength of its recycling efforts, Nickerson said.

Home-price appreciation does get some consideration, however it's only one piece of the analysis, Nickerson said -- explaining why some struggling real estate markets in California and Florida, for example, still made the top 100. Areas that offer a comfortable climate and economic opportunity tend to be the most sought-after communities on the site, he said.

I'm thinking we're getting the no-bubble "bounce".

[PonderInc]

Have you noticed that people who move to Tulsa from other cities love it?  It's just the Tulsa natives who tend to "talk it down."

I wonder if that's what we get for being a "small-big" city?  We still sort of wonder if the grass is greener somewhere else.

The people who move here from other places can just love it for what it is: beautiful, affordable, friendly, more progressive than you might expect, and full of opportunities to enjoy culture and the arts.

[midtownnewbie]

Anyone know what our ranking was last year?

[Townsend]

CNN headline news talked about this.  Guess how many of the top cities they showed.  OK, you can stop guessing...4.  They stopped at 4...who the H stops at 4?  Show #1, top 3, top 5, top 10...they stopped at 4.

[Dana431]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

CNN headline news talked about this.  Guess how many of the top cities they showed.  OK, you can stop guessing...4.  They stopped at 4...who the H stops at 4?  Show #1, top 3, top 5, top 10...they stopped at 4.

Maybe they were scared of the research they would have to put in to do #6?

[inteller]

i can understand Albuquerque.  I'd move there in a hearbeat if there was a job there that paid.

Little Rock on the other hand is a dump and I don't know why it keeps drifting to the top of the list....and San Antonio....outside of downtown it is a sprawling dump.

BTW, tulsa has ranked well on this list before, and these goobers have about as much "influence" as JD Power and Assoc.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

i can understand Albuquerque.  I'd move there in a hearbeat if there was a job there that paid.

Little Rock on the other hand is a dump and I don't know why it keeps drifting to the top of the list....and San Antonio....outside of downtown it is a sprawling dump.

BTW, tulsa has ranked well on this list before, and these goobers have about as much "influence" as JD Power and Assoc.

Albequerque?  Might have been the time of year I drove through there (November), but I didn't see anything about it that I liked better than Tulsa.  Kinda looked like a filthy, smoggy railroad town like Pueblo.  Scottsdale- yes.

[bugo]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

i can understand Albuquerque.  I'd move there in a hearbeat if there was a job there that paid.

Little Rock on the other hand is a dump and I don't know why it keeps drifting to the top of the list....and San Antonio....outside of downtown it is a sprawling dump.

West Little Rock is very nice...much like one of Tulsa's wealthy suburbs with better roads and more hills.  The Heights and Hillcrest neigbhorhoods remind me of Brookside (Actually vice versa, since I grew up in Arkansas.) The commercial district of west Little Rock is much like the 71st Street corridor between Memorial and Garnett. Little Rock also has the expected small towns on its perimeter.  Cabot has absolutely exploded, it reminds me of how I imagine Broken Arrow was a few decades ago.  Conway is getting its own 3 digit Interstate loop, and is home to 3 colleges, but has horrendous infrastructure in the older part of town (look at a map sometime at how the roads seem to be patched together.)  Jacksonville is home to the Little Rock Air Force Base, although the city has declined in part in recent years.  

Pinnacle Mountain looms over the northwestern parts of the city and a spectacular view can be seen from the I-430 bridge over the Arkansas River, which actually has water in it!  The River Market entertainment district has been one of the city's great success stories, and 3.2 beer is not available.  Burns Park is one of the larger city parks in the country.  And it's centrally located, close to both the Ozark Plateau and the Ouachita Mountains.  Memphis is only 2 hours away by car.

Little Rock isn't like Tulsa, where its ghetto area is largely confined to one part of town.  The part of town roughly framed by I-30, I-430, and the Arkansas River is what I would call the main part of Little Rock (west Little Rock is west of I-430, and other than some redneck areas several miles out in the country, there are no bad areas.  West Little Rock is roughly north of Col Glenn Rd.) is a mix of wealthy areas, middle class areas, poor areas, industrial areas, government buildings, commercial areas, colleges, and undeveloped land.  Upscale areas and blighted areas are sometimes mere blocks away from each other.  Memphis is the same way.  If you're ever on US 61 south towards Tunica, you'll notice this.

Now that I've talked up the captial of my home state, I must admit that I had the choice to move to either Little Rock or here and I movet here.  Little Rock feels more urban than Tulsa to me, even though it is smaller.  Tulsa feels almost like a big small town in a way.  Little Rock is a small city that feels like a big one in places.  If I were to move to the Little Rock area, I would probably move to one of the small towns outside the city.  Just the opposite of Tulsa, where I'd much rather be in the city.

[patric]

Its probably worth mentioning that the #1 ranked city -- Charlotte -- uses Full-Cutoff streetlighting.

When it comes to quality-of-life, the "small" things really do matter...

[deinstein]

quote:Originally posted by PonderInc

Have you noticed that people who move to Tulsa from other cities love it?  It's just the Tulsa natives who tend to "talk it down."

No, they like midtown and hate everything else.

I'm not from here and that is what I think as well.

[deinstein]

quote:Originally posted by patric

Its probably worth mentioning that the #1 ranked city -- Charlotte -- uses Full-Cutoff streetlighting.

When it comes to quality-of-life, the "small" things really do matter...

The fact Charlotte is #1 takes away some credibility from the source. The best places to live in North Carolina are along the I-40 corridor. Greensboro, Raleigh, Chapel Hill, Cary...

[tim huntzinger]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Let's see who the first person is to crap on this great news.

[SOME DUDE'S FLIKR PIC OF BIRD POOP ON WINDSHIELD]

This is like being flattered that some Nigerian prince has sent you an email and wants you to stash a meellion dollars in your bank account - and then you go and brag about it to your friends.  Like getting excited upon recieving a snail mail envelope with 'YOU HAVE WON ONE MEELLION  DOLLAR$'

Imagine the poor Ithacans -
from #3 last year to not even in the top 100 this year! They suck now according to these [)]? We should be flattered?  Nuts to them anyways, Tulsa is and always will be the best place to live, period.

What a joke! [8]