Tulsa is a cheap place to rent.

[sauerkraut]

WoW that was intresting. Wichita, KS is #1 but I don't think they have a good job market. Homes are cheap there to buy and they have  basements. I lived in Texas back in the 1980's and I thoght rents were cheap there. I dunno if that is still the case or not. I wish they listed more cities. I'd like know where Omaha stands at. Tulsa has alot of offer, low cost of living, low taxes and lots of jobs, that's a good combo for any city to have.

[TheArtist]

I think you have to be careful comparing rents and prices sometimes. I remember when I was thinking of moving to Dalls. I and a friend went down there quite a number of times looking at different apartments. People often said stuff was more expensive there. That was true,,, but only sort of. If your comparing apples to apples the prices were practically the same. If you were comparing "average" to "average", middle to middle, etc. then Dallas could be more expensive.

If you compared some apartment complex that was just like its counterpart in Tulsa. Say some wooden siding, brown stone, 1980s style apartment... same style, age, amenities, niceness of area, etc. Then there were just as many, actually more, whose prices were the same. What got ya was that there were a LOT of apartments and complexes nicer than most anything Tulsa has. So that what could be considered "average nice" in the Dallas area would be considered "upscale" here. And what is high end/upscale in Dallas, doesn't exist here. Even numerically, I would say there are likely more apartments of similar quality and price in the Dallas area than in the Tulsa area. But over all the "average" apartment would cost more in Dallas. So to say that apartments cost more in the Dallas area versus the Tulsa area...? Well, kinda sorta but not really lol.

[joiei]

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[deinstein]

It's because we live in a ****ty region.

[TheTed]

I'm pretty sure we don't have the largest Oktoberfest outside of germany.

Wikipedia

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[anni]

SPAM

Not the good kind of spam either.  The good kind being yummy meat product heavily processed and canned.  No, this was spam about a business website.  Not even a local one.

I hate spam.

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[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

MSNBC story...

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/23172597/

"Tulsa has one of the world's biggest pizza/amusement parks with all-you-can-eat pizza and all-you-can-ride go-carts and bumper cars, and bowling till you drop.  "

wow, you mean no place else has one of those?  grasping for straws here.

Actually Tulsa is the largest incredible pizza. It's 50% larger than even the company HQ store in springfield.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by inteller


BFD...it's just a huge bible thumping D&B.

I view it as chuck-e-cheese with something for parents to do. And really sweet air dryers in the bathrooms. I've yet to see anything real religious or be thumped by a bible.

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

I think you have to be careful comparing rents and prices sometimes. I remember when I was thinking of moving to Dalls. I and a friend went down there quite a number of times looking at different apartments. People often said stuff was more expensive there. That was true,,, but only sort of. If your comparing apples to apples the prices were practically the same. If you were comparing "average" to "average", middle to middle, etc. then Dallas could be more expensive.

If you compared some apartment complex that was just like its counterpart in Tulsa. Say some wooden siding, brown stone, 1980s style apartment... same style, age, amenities, niceness of area, etc. Then there were just as many, actually more, whose prices were the same. What got ya was that there were a LOT of apartments and complexes nicer than most anything Tulsa has. So that what could be considered "average nice" in the Dallas area would be considered "upscale" here. And what is high end/upscale in Dallas, doesn't exist here. Even numerically, I would say there are likely more apartments of similar quality and price in the Dallas area than in the Tulsa area. But over all the "average" apartment would cost more in Dallas. So to say that apartments cost more in the Dallas area versus the Tulsa area...? Well, kinda sorta but not really lol.

You bring up good points. It seems to me when I go to Dallas visiting rents are not all that cheap anymore when compaired to the wages, they are about the same as in the midwest, but the apartments are nicer and much newer. Teaxs has high prop taxes for people who buy homes it's about 3+ percent of the homes value, so a $100,000 home has about $3,000 in taxes, renting could be a better deal than buying. When I lived in Arlington & Fort Worth in the 1980's I paid around $250.00 for 1 bedroom and most places have all bills paid. My first apartment in Fort Worth back in 1980 was $145.00 a month all bils paid, but wages were lower back then. The building is still there and can be seen on google street 1306 May Street, it's old & run down today.

[sauerkraut]

I'm sorry I moved out of Texas, but I just went thru a nasty divorce and had a job transfer. If anyone is looking for a great place to move to D/FW is it, ya can't go wrong~ The D/FW MetroPlex is like one huge city, they have everything there that anyone could ever want. It's a clean modern metro-area, there is no state income tax, schools are not bad, and the weather is great clear blue skys all summer long and winters are not too bad but winter nights do get cold. Heating bills are not bad. A real hard thing to do is to move from a warm mild climate like Dallas to a colder climate, I'm still not adjusted to the cold. Moving from a colder climate to a warmer climate is a snap. []

[cannon_fodder]

FYI,  Dallas and Fort Worth school districts each have a graduation rate BELOW 50%.  48% for Ft. Worth and 46% for Dallas.  13th and 8th worst in the nation, respectively.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-06-20-dropout-rates_x.htm

quote:T[exas] has high prop taxes for people who buy homes it's about 3+ percent of the homes value, so a $100,000 home has about $3,000 in taxes, renting could be a better deal than buying.

You really don't think property owners don't just pass taxes on to tenants?  EVERYONE that isn't on the government doll pays property taxes.  Renters or owners, it doesn't matter.

I am not a big fan of Dallas.  IMHO it is a mega city without character.  If I were to live in a large city Minneapolis, Chicago, San Fran, and Seattle would all win out over Dallas.  Not sure why, it just has always seemed bland to me (same with Phoenix & LA).

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

I've yet to see anything real religious or be thumped by a bible.

I thump people with bibles. Gotta do something with all these copies of the scriptures people keep giving me.

[TURobY]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Not sure why, it just has always seemed bland to me (same with Phoenix & LA).

Phoenix is bland. Though, the scenery is nice.

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

FYI,  Dallas and Fort Worth school districts each have a graduation rate BELOW 50%.  48% for Ft. Worth and 46% for Dallas.  13th and 8th worst in the nation, respectively.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-06-20-dropout-rates_x.htm

quote:T[exas] has high prop taxes for people who buy homes it's about 3+ percent of the homes value, so a $100,000 home has about $3,000 in taxes, renting could be a better deal than buying.

You really don't think property owners don't just pass taxes on to tenants?  EVERYONE that isn't on the government doll pays property taxes.  Renters or owners, it doesn't matter.

I am not a big fan of Dallas.  IMHO it is a mega city without character.  If I were to live in a large city Minneapolis, Chicago, San Fran, and Seattle would all win out over Dallas.  Not sure why, it just has always seemed bland to me (same with Phoenix & LA).

The big cities always have school problems, but the suburbs are not bad. Ohio schools are pretty bad.. The D/FW MetroPlex can offer anything and just about everything anyone could ever want. Fort Worth has great Museums, the Planetraiun is first rate, Dallas also has great Museums. The area is full of great restaurants, nightlife and what ever else you want can be found somewhere in the MetroPlex. The total area has about 6 Million residents. I would never think of moving to Minneapolis,- Minneapolis is a ice city, it's bitter cold 9 months of the year people live indoors. Chicago is a mess with crime, gangs and bad weather. All I'm saying is all things concidered The Dallas/Fort Worth area is top notch. I lived there 11 years and loved it. The weather is outstanding you can wear shorts and a tee shirt for 10 months of the year, outdoor sports are king, The area has a huge network of jogging trails, people are friendly. The only thing I did not like about Texas is the motor vehicle safety inspections and smog testing that is a rip off. D/FW is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. []

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by TURobY

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Not sure why, it just has always seemed bland to me (same with Phoenix & LA).

Phoenix is bland. Though, the scenery is nice.

Phoenix can have nice weather, but I heard they have monsoon rain storms and flash floods all summer long. They have alot of lightning to. Las Vegas would be a better place to move to IMO. Nevada is having a huge housing crash right now.