Obama Throws America Under the Bus

[Hoss]

But very few of those things are military-specific. I've had a cousin who did those things as a missionary. I've had friends do it because they felt compelled to better humanity.

I think the issue arises because you act as if those who aren't in the military don't contribute to society, which is patently untrue. If that isn't what you meant, then it would be beneficial to clarify your position.  

You mean with nuggets like this?

Well, well. I see the remaining regular sex trophy citizens that have done nothing to protect or serve this country have spoken out (thanks to me and the millions of others that have provided them the right to do so).

And he wonders why people on here dislike him so.  I have news for him.  I wanted to serve.  I was hounded by the Navy to do so because of my ASVAB scores (92nd percentile).  I couldn't.  Why?  Does having a mother with a brain injury and being the 17 year old in the house getting to care for her qualify?  Does that mean I've done nothing to protect or serve my country?  Isn't the creed 'God, Family, Country'?  Would I be derided for choosing family over country, especially when that meant I got to forgo college for myself or even a military career (I wanted to be a Navy Pilot, but I don't think I would have qualified anyway)?

I think people who have served in the military humbly are great people.  Those people though who make it a point to say they've served while asking others what they've done to promote freedom in this country need to step back and get over themselves.  I can't stand that.  It makes those people you're asking feel like second-class citizens.

[cynical]

What Guido forgets is that this is not Rome.  The Legions don't govern the Empire and select the new Emperor by raising him on their shields.  The United States was founded on the principle that we are governed with the consent of the governed, not only by the consent of the military and its veterans, or anyone else deemed by Guido to have "served."  In fact, a great many of the soldiers, sailors, and airmen who Guido has appointed himself to represent put themselves in harm's way and in some cases gave their lives specifically to defeat military fascism.   

There are places on this Earth in which the military governs.  I don't think Guido would like to live under those conditions, but maybe.  But to suggest that we should become more like them, as Guido has intentionally or unintentionally done, is outside the bounds of legitimate political discourse.  And to make false claims in support of his contentions is dishonest. 

You mean with nuggets like this?

And he wonders why people on here dislike him so.  I have news for him.  I wanted to serve.  I was hounded by the Navy to do so because of my ASVAB scores (92nd percentile).  I couldn't.  Why?  Does having a mother with a brain injury and being the 17 year old in the house getting to care for her qualify?  Does that mean I've done nothing to protect or serve my country?  Isn't the creed 'God, Family, Country'?  Would I be derided for choosing family over country, especially when that meant I got to forgo college for myself or even a military career (I wanted to be a Navy Pilot, but I don't think I would have qualified anyway)?

I think people who have served in the military humbly are great people.  Those people though who make it a point to say they've served while asking others what they've done to promote freedom in this country need to step back and get over themselves.  I can't stand that.  It makes those people you're asking feel like second-class citizens.

[rwarn17588]

Well, well. I see the remaining regular sex trophy citizens that have done nothing to protect or serve this country have spoken out (thanks to me and the millions of others that have provided them the right to do so). 

That noise you're hearing is the remnants of guido's credibility being thrown out the window.