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Started by FOTD, April 07, 2009, 08:26:36 AM

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custosnox

Quote from: TheArtist on April 08, 2009, 06:26:54 PM
A the effects were only on certain types of cancer cells, brain cells.  And only for a certain chemical in Marijuana and would likely have to be injected into the brain.

Lots of things can be very poisonous yet in some instances be medically useful. Many cancer medicines will hurt you normally, its a matter of trying to kill the cancer before the medicine or the cancer kills you.  Plus marijuana has other chemicals and there are mixtures of chemicals that can have deleterious synergistic effects.

To try and cite this study as some possible reason why smoking marijuana could be a good thing would show an incredible amount of simple minded ignorance. Its similar to the logic of someone putting asprin directly on an aching tooth or sore.

But since we are sharing articles... Some other recent ones.


Marijuana Use Linked To Increased Risk Of Testicular Cancer
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090209075631.htm



Daily Consumption Of Cannabis Predisposes To Appearance Of Psychosis And Schizophrenia, Study Finds
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090325132328.htm


Marijuana Use Takes Toll On Adolescent Brain Function, Research Finds
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081014111156.htm

Teens who smoke marijuana at least once a month are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than non-users;
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080509105348.htm
The new report, "Teen Marijuana Use Worsens Depression: An Analysis of Recent Data Shows 'Self-Medicating' Could Actually Make Things Worse," shows the following:

Teens who smoke marijuana at least once a month are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than non-users;
Using marijuana can cause depression and other mental illnesses;
The percentage of depressed teens is equal to the percentage of depressed adults, but depressed teens are more likely than depressed adults to use marijuana and other illicit drugs;
Teen girls who use marijuana daily are more likely to develop depression than girls who do not use marijuana;
Depressed teens are also more likely than non-depressed teens to engage in other risky behaviors such as daily cigarette use and heavy alcohol use.
"Don't be fooled into thinking that pot is harmless," said Dr. Drew Pinksy, internist, addiction expert, and host of VH1's Celebrity Rehab. "Marijuana is an addictive drug. Teens who are already depressed and use marijuana may increase their odds of suffering from even more serious mental health problems."

In fact, the potency of smoked marijuana has risen consistently over the past decades and higher potency translates into serious health consequences for teens. Some studies show that higher potency marijuana may be contributing to an increase in the number of American teens seeking treatment for marijuana dependence. The risks associated with recent and long-term marijuana use include schizophrenia, other forms of psychosis, and even suicide. "Not only are adolescents at greater risk for drug abuse, but they may suffer more consequences," said Nora D. Volkow, M. D., Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "There is also some evidence that in vulnerable teens-because of genetic factors-the abuse of marijuana can trigger a schizophreniform disorder."




Thanks for stepping in with facts that I was missing.  I was pretty much shooting from the hip with what little knowledge I have on the subject (yes, I admit I'm mostly ignorant on the subject).

nathanm

Quote from: custosnox on April 08, 2009, 04:26:52 PM
I never said that lazyness doesn't cause inactivity, however I have known plenty of pot heads that once they smoke they don't really care about getting anything done.  So yeah, once a day, or a couple of times a day you can still get things done, however, if you have people smoking pot like their cigarettes, then your going to have a dramatic increase in those that don't give a damn (hense my original comment of being stoned from the time they wake up to the time they go to bed)
The urge to sit on the couch is largely a side effect of the particular variety, at least for folks who don't already have that urge. Supposedly sativa encourages mental and physical activity, while indica promotes laying around feeling stoned. At least that's what the studies say.

All that said, it turns out that the active ingredients in pot not only have cancer-fighting properties, but also are antibacterial, antimalarial, antifungal, antiparasitic, and analgesic. Turns out that one of the cannabanoids is incredibly effective against MRSA.

And TheArtist, several of those articles seem to be unable to separate correlation from causation. While there is some evidence of a correlation between marijuana use and schizophrenia and suicidal thoughts, it's just as likely those with such ailments use drugs in an attempt to self medicate. AFAIK, there are no controlled studies on the subject.
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FOTD

The standard disposable weak links, Artiest. Your perspective seems out of whack. Read Natanm's post reply again!

OX, it's in your DNA means it sticks like glue to your nervous system, but like stated "good luck" with quitting.

There exists a study of Parkinson's syndrome and it states that nicotine could stave off the disease.

Rico, the devil was getting nailed to the cross and you go and get sarcastic.











Conan71

Quote from: FOTD on April 08, 2009, 08:49:13 PM
The standard disposable weak links, Artiest. Your perspective seems out of whack. Read Natanm's post reply again!

OX, it's in your DNA means it sticks like glue to your nervous system, but like stated "good luck" with quitting.

There exists a study of Parkinson's syndrome and it states that nicotine could stave off the disease.

Rico, the devil was getting nailed to the cross and you go and get sarcastic.












Nice graphic weed-head.  I even spotted you a karma for it.
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FOTD

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Quote from: Conan71 on April 08, 2009, 11:34:06 PM
Nice graphic weed-head.  I even spotted you a karma for it.


Thanx, smile-head (Navin's dog in The Jerk).


Conan71

Quote from: FOTD on April 09, 2009, 09:38:40 PM
Thanx, smile-head (Navin's dog in The Jerk).



Smile Head. I had to think for a moment beyond the Imperial censors.  Thanks for the laugh.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

In Calif., Medical Marijuana Laws Are Moving Pot Into the Mainstream

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/11/AR2009041100767.html?hpid%3Dsec-health&sub=AR

"Pot is now retailed over the counter in hundreds of storefronts across Los Angeles and is credited with reviving a section of downtown Oakland..."

Just saying.....

TeeDub

Quote from: Conan71 on April 08, 2009, 11:34:06 PM
Nice graphic weed-head.  I even spotted you a karma for it.


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ARGUS

the question is "can you abuse pot"? Answer is: "yes".
 

Hoss

Quote from: ARGUS on April 15, 2009, 10:33:13 AM
the question is "can you abuse pot"? Answer is: "yes".

Just like about everything else.  Can you abuse food?  Certainly.  Hair care products?  Most likely.

I was a bit of a pot-head in my younger years, used it a little in my mid to late twenties, primarily finding out that it alleviated the pain of my once-monthly migraines when nothing else could.  I see the painkilling applications it has, and believe that a person should be able to choose the delivery method.  Pills would probably take a lot longer than the 5 to 10 minutes you feel the effects of THC by smoking it, but smoking it is defintely harmful to the lungs.

My stance has been legalize it and tax it like tobacco.  It's already the number one cash crop in many southern states (I think OK is one of them).  We're not winning the war on drugs, that's pretty much a proven fact.