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Traitorous Senator Inhofe

Started by FOTD, June 06, 2009, 01:18:54 PM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on July 24, 2009, 07:24:13 PM

Not that I actually approve of what's going on, but it's all political payback.  I'm guessing you would have to agree with that, right?


How far back does one go to the "starting point"?  Muslims go back the Crusades.  Christians say the Muslims were invading Europe. Democrats go back to the latest Republican control.  Republicans go back to the latest Democrats control.  Where is time zero?  Who was the first aggressor?  It will probably never be resolved.
 

Conan71

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 24, 2009, 11:07:58 PM
How far back does one go to the "starting point"?  Muslims go back the Crusades.  Christians say the Muslims were invading Europe. Democrats go back to the latest Republican control.  Republicans go back to the latest Democrats control.  Where is time zero?  Who was the first aggressor?  It will probably never be resolved.

Tit-for-tat is not a good excuse for 300 million Americans to get screwed by 535 legislators, their petty bickering, and media enablers. (speaking to Hoss' post)

One point I disagree with Hoss on is his timeline.  You really do have to look back to around Tip O'Neill to see any semblance of respect in partisan politics.  Kind of dates back to Watergate if you ask me.  I suspect every President from now on will wind up facing sophomoric calls for impeachment at some point.  Instead of cooperative politics and governance, it's now spiteful and punitive.

"C" street? Come on man, that's nothing more than character smear from the DNC to take your eyes off what's really going on here. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on July 25, 2009, 01:14:43 AM
..snip...

"C" street? Come on man, that's nothing more than character smear from the DNC to take your eyes off what's really going on here. 

Once again, tit for tat.  Repubs engaged in these kind of tactics all the time.  I mean, really...how bad was it that the executive got a BJ in the oval office?  That whole sordid mess cost us, the American taxpayer.  Bill lying about it didn't make it any better, but he also had the Balkans to distract the media from that ball.

And the token right-wingers with their cries of socialism...where's the real rage?  Republicans have been really good this cycle to manufacture rage, but only because they lost the legislative and executive branches.

And how about that character smear coming from the 'birthers' who now have that moron Lou Dobbs AND Rushbo in their camp?  Lou may not even know he's propogating it.  And Rush may be Gweed's father for all I know.

waterboy

FWIW I think you guys have it backwards. The politicians aren't leading the populace with their petty bickering, sophomoric behavior, greed, immorality, manufactured rage,  etc. They are representative of it.

It comes from the people and is magnified in the press. It is generated in coffee shops, machine shops, bars, churches, blogs, forums, clubs, schools and the workplace. The incivility you see in Congress is the result of grass roots growth fertilized with ignorance and left unmowed.

The ugly truth is that those awful characteristics describe American behavior now. These congressmen are not leaders, they are followers.

Conan71

Quote from: waterboy on July 25, 2009, 09:07:27 AM
FWIW I think you guys have it backwards. The politicians aren't leading the populace with their petty bickering, sophomoric behavior, greed, immorality, manufactured rage,  etc. They are representative of it.

It comes from the people and is magnified in the press. It is generated in coffee shops, machine shops, bars, churches, blogs, forums, clubs, schools and the workplace. The incivility you see in Congress is the result of grass roots growth fertilized with ignorance and left unmowed.

The ugly truth is that those awful characteristics describe American behavior now. These congressmen are not leaders, they are followers.

NOOOOOO!!!!  Not the machine shops and bars!!!!!!
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

Hoss....you can't join the whigs because they're old hat.

But FOTD will be starting a new party....the Whacks. Everybody will claim affiliation!

waterboy

Quote from: Conan71 on July 25, 2009, 10:32:19 AM
NOOOOOO!!!!  Not the machine shops and bars!!!!!!

'fraid so, Con. Course, they are both the same population. ;)

joiei

Quote from: Hoss on July 25, 2009, 02:12:10 AM
And Rush may be Gweed's father for all I know.
inspite of his shouting and trying to over talk,  I sort of like the Guido911.  He is single minded yes, but if you ask a direct question he will try to answer it the best he can.  I do not agree with his politics but he has treated me fairly sometimes. 
It's hard being a Diamond in a rhinestone world.

Conan71

Quote from: joiei on July 25, 2009, 07:32:33 PM
inspite of his shouting and trying to over talk,  I sort of like the Guido911.  He is single minded yes, but if you ask a direct question he will try to answer it the best he can.  I do not agree with his politics but he has treated me fairly sometimes. 

You've been treated fairly!?!?!?!  We need to fix that!!!  ;)
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan