Tulsa vs Suburbs (schools)

[daddys little squirt]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by daddys little squirt

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

People always defend the Tulsa School District by pointing to Booker T. Washington. BTW is a great school but that is because it is a  magnet school.  BTW picks the children they want to attend their school.  It is quite competitive to get in. Here is the minimum criteria (and they do mean minimum)

Minimum criteria for admission are as follows:*
*NOTE: Admission teams shall have the authority to admit a maximum of 10% of any entering class who are TPS residents and not otherwise qualified. These admissions decisions are to be based upon extenuating circumstances or conditions as determined by the admission teams and approved by the principal.

A. The successful completion of a middle school program through eighth grade or its equivalent.
B. Superb attendance: No more than 5 absences during the application year and no more than 10 absences during the year immediately prior to the application year.
(NOTE: Students with medically documented chronic/serious illnesses or other extenuating circumstances leading to excessive absences may be considered on a case-by-case basis. Such documentation must be provided in writing by the parents/guardians and included with the application packet.)
C. Excellent behavior: Suspensions out of school during the application year or during the year immediately prior to the application year may preclude consideration for admission.
D. Scores at the thirty-fifth percentile or above on both the reading and mathematics components of the most current standardized academic measurements typically available (or their equivalents) AND grade point averages at or above 2.50 on a 4.00 scale for the first semester of the application year and for the year immediately preceding the application year.
5. An Admission Recommendation Form prepared and signed by a minimum of three (3) faculty/staff at the applicant's current or most recent school who have knowledge of the applicant's potential for success.

If your child is not chosen to attend BTW then you need to consult the Tulsa Public School boundary map to see what school your child will attend.  I would really do my homework on the other schools before you move into the district assuming that your child will be admitted into BTW.

You imply that these are unusually high criteria. From what I read of your post they must have attended class, not gotten into trouble routinely, know their teachers and counselors and make a 2.5gpa. 35th percentile in math and reading seems unusually low. The criteria describes a rather average, well adjusted student not "chosen" like those who attend private schools. Enough of the cherry picking remarks. BTW earns its reputation with excellent teaching and students who are ready to learn. Edison will soon build the same reputation and then Memorial.

Not quite, these are minimums to even apply, they then take the top applicants, meeting these standards does NOT mean that you get in. It only  means you are allowed to apply.

The implication was what I responded to. If its competitive, one would assume that the better students would have an edge, but the application process only requires an average student. If these same high performing students chose to attend Rogers High School, they would undoubtedly be placed in special curriculum programs.

Of course at Jenks they would have to pass "socializing" standards as well[]

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by daddys little squirt

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

You imply that these are unusually high criteria. From what I read of your post they must have attended class, not gotten into trouble routinely, know their teachers and counselors and make a 2.5gpa. 35th percentile in math and reading seems unusually low. The criteria describes a rather average, well adjusted student not "chosen" like those who attend private schools. Enough of the cherry picking remarks. BTW earns its reputation with excellent teaching and students who are ready to learn. Edison will soon build the same reputation and then Memorial.

Not quite, these are minimums to even apply, they then take the top applicants, meeting these standards does NOT mean that you get in. It only  means you are allowed to apply.

Actually, that's not quite right either.  If you meet the minimum standards, and live in BTW's historic neighborhood, or attended Carver (and to some extent Wilson), you are likely to be accepted, as BTW accepts these students before even looking to others.  After that, you do get a lot more competition, and generally only top students will be admitted (though BTW has the discretion of accepting up to 10% of non-qualifying students).  Even among the general population, however, BTW is required to take a certain percentage of students from each area of the city.  Therefore, students from lower performing areas still have a good shot at acceptance.  So, generally, kids at BTW are from the upper percentages, but not necessarily the best of the best.

Still, BTW is like a private school in that the students realize that attendance is a privilege, and that they can be kicked out at any given moment.  When you can instill that sort of attitude among students, its a lot easier to teach.

By the way, Edison now has a magnet program built into the general school schedule, and I have heard very good things about it.  If you live in the Edison district, and meet the qualifications, you are guarenteed placement within the advanced classes--unlike BTW, there is no limit to the number of students who can attend (within Edison boundaries).

Personally, I would choose Edison or BTW over Jenks or Union any day.

[RecycleMichael]

I would choose BTW, Edison, and Memorial before I would go to Union or Jenks.

I also like the principal at East Central...they are going to continue to improve.