The DEA's Terrorist Plot

[patric]

..all revolves around the word of a paid informant in Houston.

So is Iran really teaming up with Mexican drug lords, or is an agency that has spent billions of tax dollars with nothing to show for it, taking a page from the FBI in cooking up a distraction?

[dbacks fan]

..all revolves around the word of a paid informant in Houston.

So is Iran really teaming up with Mexican drug lords, or is an agency that has spent billions of tax dollars with nothing to show for it, taking a page from the FBI in cooking up a distraction?

Why not team up with the Mexican drug cartel? They have one of the most sophisticated networks for smuggling things into and out of America. There was a movie in the late 80's "The Fourth Protocol" that was based on the premise of a Soviet agent working with a network of smugglers to get a small nuclear weapon into England to detonate near a USAF base that shows how it "could" happen.

[Gaspar]

..all revolves around the word of a paid informant in Houston.

So is Iran really teaming up with Mexican drug lords, or is an agency that has spent billions of tax dollars with nothing to show for it, taking a page from the FBI in cooking up a distraction?

Could be, but apparently they intercepted a $1.5 million dollar payment wired from Iran, and the plot was not isolated to just the US.  That would be pretty hard to fake, and if they did fake it, and that was discovered it would represent a threat world banking, and lead to all sorts of unforeseen economic and foreign relations calamity.

I seriously doubt the administration would conspire on anything that far reaching to save the skin of Eric Holder.  It looks as if this was handled very well, and it may serve to sever the relationships between Russia, China, and Iran now that those countries have been presented with proof that Iran is calling high level terrorist hits.

[Breadburner]

..all revolves around the word of a paid informant in Houston.

So is Iran really teaming up with Mexican drug lords, or is an agency that has spent billions of tax dollars with nothing to show for it, taking a page from the FBI in cooking up a distraction?

You are truly an idiot....

[patric]

Could be, but apparently they intercepted a $1.5 million dollar payment wired from Iran, and the plot was not isolated to just the US.  That would be pretty hard to fake, and if they did fake it, and that was discovered it would represent a threat world banking, and lead to all sorts of unforeseen economic and foreign relations calamity.

It would be hard to fake.  It would take a pretty resourceful, well-funded entity to do that.


Washington Bombing Plot Is Out of Character for Iran's Professional Killers:  http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096747,00.html#ixzz1ag1UGPZG

In its 30-year history of attacking the West, the Quds Force went out of its way never to be caught with a smoking gun in hand. It always used well-vetted proxies, invariably Muslim believers devoted to Khomeini's revolution. And when the operation was particularly sensitive, they gave the job to Lebanon's militant Shi'ite Hizballah, organization the Iranians themselves had founded and which has an unsurpassed record in political murder. Hizballah has cells all over the world, including in the United States. But the point of it all was that if caught — and they were, more than once — Iran still enjoyed plausible deniability, a commodity in this business worth its weight in gold. So, if this plot was genuine, why didn't the Iranians use tried and tested Hizballah networks and keep Iranian nationals, much less unknown Mexican narcos, out of it?
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096747,00.html#ixzz1ag1UGPZG


Friends said he couldn't be bothered to pay his bills on time or keep his auto-sales records straight let alone pull off a deadly terror plot.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/terror_wheeler_dealer_kSOxej2G976MxKSlLPIerI#ixzz1afyyewta


Are we to believe that this Texas car seller was a Quds sleeper agent for many years resident in the U.S.? Ridiculous. They (the Iranian command system) never ever use such has-beens or loosely connected people for sensitive plots such as this.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/iran-experts-ponder-an-alleged-terror-plots-b-movie-qualities/

[patric]

Hate to sound cliché, but it may have been just a drug deal gone bad:   


FBI account of 'terror plot' suggests sting

WASHINGTON - While the Barack Obama administration vows to hold the Iranian government "accountable" for the alleged plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in Washington, the legal document describing evidence in the case provides multiple indications that it was mainly the result of a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) sting operation.

Although the document, called an amended criminal complaint, implicates Iranian-American Mansour Arabsiar and his cousin Ali Gholam Shakuri, an officer in the Iranian Qods force, in a plan to assassinate Saudi Arabian ambassador Adel al-Jubeir, it also suggests that the idea "originated with and was strongly pushed by an undercover DEA [Department of Drug Enforcement] informant, at the direction of the FBI".

The DEA informant, as the FBI account acknowledges in a footnote, had previously been charged with a narcotics offense by a state in the US and had been cooperating in narcotics investigations - apparently posing as a drug cartel operative - in return for dropping the charges. The document is notably silent on whether the conversation was recorded.

A former FBI official familiar with procedures in such cases, who spoke to Inter Press Service (IPS) anonymously, said the FBI would normally have recorded all such conversations touching on the possibility of terrorism.
The absence of quotes from any of those meetings suggests that they do not support the case being made by the FBI and the Obama administration.

On May 24, when Arabsiar first met with the DEA informant he thought was part of a Mexican drug cartel, it was not to hire a hit squad to kill the ambassador. Rather, there is reason to believe that the main purpose was to arrange a deal to sell large amounts of opium from Afghanistan.

The fact that not a single quote from Arabsiar shows that he agreed to assassinating the ambassador, much less proposed it, suggests that he was either non-committal or linking the issue to something else, such as the prospect of a major drug deal with the cartel.

During a visit to Iran in August, Arabsiar wired two equal payments totaling $100,000 to a bank account in New York. But he was still under the impression that he was about to cash in on a deal with the cartel.

More: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MJ15Ak02.html

[patric]

This one's a little more local:
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Terrorism-investigation-in-Tulsa/SLQkTk0E7UyCF4iAOqJSIw.cspx

Given the track record sofar, Im inclined to take these with a grain of salt.


Federal agents are investigating a midtown Tulsa auto company for possible connections to terrorism.

They are investigating Ace Auto Leasing, located on 11th between Sheridan and Yale, it is one of 30 car dealerships named in federal investigation documents from the Drug Enforcement Administration.

The documents allege the businesses were part of a multi-million dollar organization that funneled money to terrorist organizations including Hezbollah.

[Gaspar]

This one's a little more local:
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Terrorism-investigation-in-Tulsa/SLQkTk0E7UyCF4iAOqJSIw.cspx

Given the track record sofar, Im inclined to take these with a grain of salt.


Federal agents are investigating a midtown Tulsa auto company for possible connections to terrorism.

They are investigating Ace Auto Leasing, located on 11th between Sheridan and Yale, it is one of 30 car dealerships named in federal investigation documents from the Drug Enforcement Administration.

The documents allege the businesses were part of a multi-million dollar organization that funneled money to terrorist organizations including Hezbollah.

Owned by Mohammad and Daad Soukieh according to court records.

[Red Arrow]

Given the track record sofar my (Patric's) general aversion to anything regarding law enforcement, Im inclined to take these with a grain of salt.

[Breadburner]

Lol.....Nice....!

[ARGUS]

breadburner please visit the forum guidelines section...and please quit the name calling to help this forum be more relevant.

[patric]

Here we go again...

According to the criminal complaint, last October the men began discussing plans to knock bank signs off of buildings in Cleveland.
The men allegedly discussed the idea of using smoke grenades on the Veterans Memorial Bridge in Cleveland to create a diversion while they carried out their plan to topple the bank signs.
The men were identified after a paid FBI informant alerted the FBI to their alleged plans to target the Brecksville-Northfield High Level Bridge on Route 82, which spans the Cuyahoga River south of Cleveland.

The FBI said they used the paid informant to facilitate the men getting C4 explosives.

How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook

[nathanm]

Amazing how conspiring to commit property damage is now terrorism. Can we please do away with the patriot act? It should be called the coward act, amirite?