Radio and Media

[mr.jaynes]

So 1170 is talk radio now and not KVOO? What is its overall political bent?

[marc]

quote:Originally posted by mr.jaynes

So 1170 is talk radio now and not KVOO? What is its overall political bent?

It's very conservative politically. The previous morning show host spent a lot of time condemning gambling, but had his own troubles while visiting a couple of area casinos. He has moved on to Nashville, and his former sidekick Gwen Freeman is now the principal host, along with Chris Medlock, a former member of the city council who recently ran for mayor and lost. And swake is right, they spend a whole lot of time on illegal immigration.

1170 KFAQ also carries a number of national programs, all conservative, including Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly and John Gibson.

Local talk radio is too conservative for my taste, but the conservatives pretty much dominate talk radio nationally as well.

[sauerkraut]

I really enjoy Tulsa's talk radio format. Color me a bit old fashioned, but I like to listen to Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Neal Bortz and Rush L. and even Mike Savage. I like Gwen Freeman's morn. show, she seems to be right on the level and telling it like it is. Immigration is a big issue in "T" Town and so that is why she talks about it alot. I listen to many of those radio shows back home in Ohio, since they are all on nation~wide. Mike Savage is very popular and he has something like 400 radio station nation wide that carry his show. On the weekends I like to listen to Kim Komando, she's on in Tulsa Sunday Afternoons on KRMF radio 740. Monica Crowley is also intresting to listen to on the weekends.

[mr.jaynes]

As I tell everyone, it's nice to listen to Talk Radio of any ideological stripe, but it is no substitute to watching the news or going to the library to research the issues for yourself. I may be liberal, but my opinions aren't dictated by Al Franken (whom I've long enjoyed): they are strictly my own.

[rwarn17588]

About the only KFAQ show that doesn't insult my intelligence is the "Brian and the Judge" in the afternoons, and thats only because Napolitano is there to correct that airhead Kilmeade.

O'Reilly indeed has become more independent, but his noise-to-signal ratio is still way too high.

The rest are immature, poorly informed gasbags.

[mr.jaynes]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

About the only KFAQ show that doesn't insult my intelligence is the "Brian and the Judge" in the afternoons, and thats only because Napolitano is there to correct that airhead Kilmeade.

Though I'm not in a locale that can get this KFAQ, I am indeed familiar with Andrew Napolitano and Brian Kilmeade, and have occasionally heard their show on the Net. I am baffled as to how an erudite and accomplished man such as Napolitano, even in a political context, could even condescend to team up with a troglodyte like Brian Kilmeade. And I'm further baffled as to how Brian Kilmeade (whose forte is obviously sports, though even here, he couldn't hold a candle to Bob Costas or Stuart Scott), should be taken seriously as a credible voice on geopolitics and the Washington scene.

Bill O'Reilly is a genre unto himself, in my humble opinion. One never really knows which way he'll go on an issue. I've only heard his radio show a few times, but it does seem to have a different feel in terms of style and substance than his TV show (and not because of the fact it's radio either).

As for the pantheon of "gasbags" taking up space on conservative talk radio (And, for this individual post, I'm not even gonna mention Sean Hannity-we all know what I think about him), I'd say that Laura Ingraham definitely has a seat at that table. I've heard her a few times too, and I'm wondering, is she a radio talk show host, a pundit, a crazywoman, what? Has she had her rabies shot yet?

Yes, we get talk radio down here too.

[rwarn17588]

True story: The first time I heard Ingraham, I thought she was a he.

I guess she IS female, although she gives off a tranny vibe.

And yes, Mr. Jaynes, your assessment of her show is spot-on.

[sabre1067]

this is just crazy.  

don't get me wrong consultants are the root of all evil.  but these companies goal is to turn profit for shareholders, so why wouldn't they do which is most likely to make that happen.

i hear you, "that's exactly the problem".  do you say that about Albertson's?  AMC?, Cinemark?, Walgreens?, or any of these other companies.  Of any of these huge multi-billion corporations, at least radio, or media companies, care about the local angle.  you don't see alberstons with a 'Oklahoma grown section'.

The media company that i work for is constantly poll radio listeners to create the best product possible.

What should be addressed even more is the amount of money these multi-billion evil empires pour into the communities, and provide local jobs and pay them, respectfully, with the certainty of the check clearing, which isn't the way it was when i worked for a 'family owned' company.  

Trickle that down, that money those EVIL companies pay their local people goes into local grocery stores, local events, doctors offices and malls (which are also run by multi billion dollar corporations).

What i am getting at is 1) we are surround by corporations only wanting to turn a profit and 2) it's just not like that article says. The company i work for has NEVER EVER told me what to play or how to play or what to say.  It's exactly the same as it was when i worked for a mom and pop organization.  Actually i remember the owner of the company telling me to not play a hit song because he didn't like it.  At least now i know paycheck will clear, i have good benefits and job security.  AND they aren't going to move me to Houston, like a Phillips or Williams.  My job is here.

Internet radio will be great, just like it was great when TV, Cable TV, Cassettes, CDs, iPods and satellite radio were introduced and 'crush' radio.  It will make all the products better.  Ever company, mom or pop, only care about making money too, not you or if they are local.  I don't know a very successful business that would lose money in the spirit of customers or localism.

And the attitude of "DON"T LISTEN DON'T REPORT" is just plain silly.  There is only one reason a radio station flips format, and that is no one buys advertising on the station.

and please tell me the people on this forum don't take blog's with teal background and yellow damasks seriously.

[mr.jaynes]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

True story: The first time I heard Ingraham, I thought she was a he.

I guess she IS female, although she gives off a tranny vibe.

And yes, Mr. Jaynes, your assessment of her show is spot-on.

Ya know, now that you mention it, I checked through some media files (video and audio) on various sites that would have some of Miss Thingraham's appearances on Fox News etc, listened to her spiel, and you're absolutely right. There does seem to be something in her voice that may tend to indicate that. But, hey, I'm a big-tent kinda guy, and so in passing, sometimes socially, and even in my work, I've known a few female impersonators in my day (both full fledged divas and mere pretenders to the throne); I doubt that any of them would claim her.

Seriously though. I've listened to some of her diatribes, and she comes off as only slightly more rational than Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin. Her arguments, as best as I can figure them out to be, are obviously based less on clear unbiased facts, and more on spin, innuendo, and immature, viciously petulant partisanship.  

quote:Originally posted by sabre1067

this is just crazy.  

don't get me wrong consultants are the root of all evil.  but these companies goal is to turn profit for shareholders, so why wouldn't they do which is most likely to make that happen.

i hear you, "that's exactly the problem".  do you say that about Albertson's?  AMC?, Cinemark?, Walgreens?, or any of these other companies.  Of any of these huge multi-billion corporations, at least radio, or media companies, care about the local angle.  you don't see alberstons with a 'Oklahoma grown section'.

The media company that i work for is constantly poll radio listeners to create the best product possible.

What should be addressed even more is the amount of money these multi-billion evil empires pour into the communities, and provide local jobs and pay them, respectfully, with the certainty of the check clearing, which isn't the way it was when i worked for a 'family owned' company.  

Trickle that down, that money those EVIL companies pay their local people goes into local grocery stores, local events, doctors offices and malls (which are also run by multi billion dollar corporations).

What i am getting at is 1) we are surround by corporations only wanting to turn a profit and 2) it's just not like that article says. The company i work for has NEVER EVER told me what to play or how to play or what to say.  It's exactly the same as it was when i worked for a mom and pop organization.  Actually i remember the owner of the company telling me to not play a hit song because he didn't like it.  At least now i know paycheck will clear, i have good benefits and job security.  AND they aren't going to move me to Houston, like a Phillips or Williams.  My job is here.

Internet radio will be great, just like it was great when TV, Cable TV, Cassettes, CDs, iPods and satellite radio were introduced and 'crush' radio.  It will make all the products better.  Ever company, mom or pop, only care about making money too, not you or if they are local.  I don't know a very successful business that would lose money in the spirit of customers or localism.

And the attitude of "DON"T LISTEN DON'T REPORT" is just plain silly.  There is only one reason a radio station flips format, and that is no one buys advertising on the station.

and please tell me the people on this forum don't take blog's with teal background and yellow damasks seriously.

Ya had me there for a moment, then ya lost me; so many arguments in your post and in so many directions. OK, let's tackle this one thing at a time.

First, to compare these large media concerns to companies such as Walgreens is completely out of context. Each serve a particular national need or want. Media is a business, but different in its scope and purpose.

The topic was corporate radio and the near monopoly companies such as Clear Channel and others have on the media as we know it. It would seem that radio today is less autonomous and more micromanaged by the bigger companies, basing its programming less on what the community's preferences are at any given time, and more  on the dubious demographical research the consultants trot out. With it, the quality of such programming decreases somewhat.

Radio once reflected the tastes of the communities the stations once served. One only has to look at KELI in the 1970s, or even KRAV FM 96  in the 1980s to bear witness to this. An aside, I don't know what KRAV's current format is these days, but back in the day (the 1980s, the good old days of music), they'd play the hits of the day, but it also wasn't unheard of for them to play "Stairway to Heaven" every now and then, or "Classical Gas." Today, depending on the station's ownership, the music is already determined by higher management (sometimes a corporate official in another city), and it's the same throughout the country of stations of a similar format that the company owns, with few if any variations.

I am not against corporations. Indeed, I am a true believer in free enterprise-and I happen to work for a large corporation with concerns throughout the US; I know where my bread is buttered, so to speak. And I realize that these huge media companies are a part of the free enterprise system, and have no problem with that either. But I do have a problem with how radio and TV is currently run by them.  

As for the website's decor, what would you prefer? Does teal and yellow detract from the message somewhat?

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by marc

quote:Originally posted by mr.jaynes

So 1170 is talk radio now and not KVOO? What is its overall political bent?

It's very conservative politically. The previous morning show host spent a lot of time condemning gambling, but had his own troubles while visiting a couple of area casinos. He has moved on to Nashville, and his former sidekick Gwen Freeman is now the principal host, along with Chris Medlock, a former member of the city council who recently ran for mayor and lost. And swake is right, they spend a whole lot of time on illegal immigration.

1170 KFAQ also carries a number of national programs, all conservative, including Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly and John Gibson.

Local talk radio is too conservative for my taste, but the conservatives pretty much dominate talk radio nationally as well.

I really enjoy Gewn Freeman's show, but I do not like her side kick Chris Medlock, he seems to keep interupting her when she's talking or making a point, -or if he's not doing that he's making goofy comments or silly noises & trying to be funny. I find Chris Medlock plum anoying, he can't keep quiet for 10 seconds. As for comments about Laura Ingraham, check out her web site. She has a good radio talk show, she really pushed hard against that immigration amnesty bill we owe her alot of credit for that along with the other talk show hosts. Without them we could very well of had that amnesty bill pass and given 20 million illegals the right to stay here & take jobs, drive down wages, draw SS and  socal services and bring their families over here. The cost of that illegal alien amnesty would of been around $2.4 Trillion dollars and would bankrupt our nation.[xx(]

[cannon_fodder]

I spend 45% of my radio listening on KRMG, 45% on NPR, and the other 10% on random scanning looking for something that doesn't suck.

In Iowa, it was pretty much the same thing.  50/50 with NPR and the big AM, and a little scanning.

Lately I've been trying to learn Spanish by picking out every other word on 103.3 (I think thats the station).  OK, not learning.  But on occasion I listen to try and figure out what they are talking about.

[mr.jaynes]

quote: Lately I've been trying to learn Spanish by picking out every other word on 103.3 (I think thats the station).  OK, not learning.  But on occasion I listen to try and figure out what they are talking about.

Best way to learn Spanish is to get the genuine and clear Spanish spoken in Spain. Go to the source.