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Started by cannon_fodder, February 03, 2009, 09:18:23 AM

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AVERAGE JOE

#30
February 09, 2009, 02:00:50 PM
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Des Moines.  Omaha.  Albuquerque.  Oklahoma City.  All cities similar to Tulsa.  All cities that in the last 5-15 years have revitalized their downtowns.  What do they have that Tulsa doesn't?

More pro-downtown residents and fewer constipated old naysayers like Hawkins.

Conan71

#31
February 09, 2009, 02:17:29 PM
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Originally posted by Hawkins

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Originally posted by Conan71

When did Tsunami go tits-up?

I loved the space, thought the food was uh-okay, but loathed the service, even when sitting at the sushi bar.

That's kind of a shocker, they were usually pretty busy.  Anyone know the 411?


The owner didn't pay rent at his other location, and the word was he was never in town to supervise the stores. His other mistake was that both locations he chose, Downtown and the Riverwalk, both talk a lot of BULL when it comes to "future development."

This thread cracks me up. You guys all wish so hard that downtown wasn't just a place that people only go to when they have to (to pay a fine, work, or see a show at the ill-placed arena or 1,000-year-old "historic" Brady), but folks, thats what it is.

You can spend a day in Tulsa, but to confine yourself to the "old" part of town that used to be what 71st & Highway 169 is now, just isn't going to cut it.

Those businesses all close at 5:00 because after that, their chances of being robbed go WAY up... Downtown Tulsa is a poor income housing area. That makes it high crime, and no one with a family to go home to wants to keep their coffee shop or Quizno's open after the 9-5 workers have gone home.

Seriously. You guys are pipe-dreamers.

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That's funny, I can't think of the last time I heard of an armed robbery in downtown.  You should get out more, your perception of the area seems off.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

TheTed

#32
February 09, 2009, 02:26:43 PM
So nobody goes downtown because of robberies?

That doesn't even make sense. If there's nobody downtown, who is it that's getting robbed?

If robbers are waiting for somebody to walk down the Main Mall at 11pm, they are the world's most incompetent felons.
 

Composer

#33
February 09, 2009, 04:50:11 PM
I have never been in a situation where I have felt unsafe in downtown Tulsa.

nathanm

#34
February 09, 2009, 04:59:37 PM
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Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

When did Tsunami go tits-up?

I loved the space, thought the food was uh-okay, but loathed the service, even when sitting at the sushi bar.

That's kind of a shocker, they were usually pretty busy.  Anyone know the 411?


The owner didn't pay rent at his other location, and the word was he was never in town to supervise the stores. His other mistake was that both locations he chose, Downtown and the Riverwalk, both talk a lot of BULL when it comes to "future development."

This thread cracks me up. You guys all wish so hard that downtown wasn't just a place that people only go to when they have to (to pay a fine, work, or see a show at the ill-placed arena or 1,000-year-old "historic" Brady), but folks, thats what it is.

You can spend a day in Tulsa, but to confine yourself to the "old" part of town that used to be what 71st & Highway 169 is now, just isn't going to cut it.

Those businesses all close at 5:00 because after that, their chances of being robbed go WAY up... Downtown Tulsa is a poor income housing area. That makes it high crime, and no one with a family to go home to wants to keep their coffee shop or Quizno's open after the 9-5 workers have gone home.

Seriously. You guys are pipe-dreamers.

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Depends on the part of downtown your talking about. Even the first post on this thread mentioned that the places were either too busy, or not open. Even many streets in NYC that you see as being crowded with people, on the week nights for instance will be dead. There are the "tourist areas" the business areas, etc. Each will have its times when they are busy or not. I know that may come as a shock to some.

Yes, Times Square is deader than a doornail at 3 in the morning. At least as much as downtown Tulsa.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

mac

#35
February 10, 2009, 10:10:48 AM
Until the population grows to a critial mass downtown a Transportation system could be established from downtown to Cherry Street, Utica Square and Brookside. This could be established a lot more quickly and could allow easy and convenient access to restaurants, banks, pharmacies, grocery stores and other shopping. A regular trolley system just to those areas would be a boost business to all the areas.

Red Arrow

#36
February 10, 2009, 12:34:31 PM
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Originally posted by mac

Until the population grows to a critial mass downtown a Transportation system could be established from downtown to Cherry Street, Utica Square and Brookside. This could be established a lot more quickly and could allow easy and convenient access to restaurants, banks, pharmacies, grocery stores and other shopping. A regular trolley system just to those areas would be a boost business to all the areas.


Regular Trolley




(Most of you knew that was comming.)
 

Rico

#37
February 10, 2009, 01:34:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mac

Until the population grows to a critial mass downtown a Transportation system could be established from downtown to Cherry Street, Utica Square and Brookside. This could be established a lot more quickly and could allow easy and convenient access to restaurants, banks, pharmacies, grocery stores and other shopping. A regular trolley system just to those areas would be a boost business to all the areas.



Osage Casino Partners with T-Town Trolley
Tulsa Business Staff
1/6/2009

Tulsa is getting a taste of San Francisco, or maybe its major mode of transportation.

This week, Osage Million Dollar Elm casino partners with T-Town Trolley to cart casino-goers between the casino, at 955 W. 36th St. North, downtown Tulsa and entertainment hot-spots in the Brady district.

"This new way to welcome our guests also connects Tulsa's downtown night life to our casino, the closest gaming attraction to downtown Tulsa," said Stephan Burris, general manager, Osage Million Dollar Elm casino. "Osage Million Dollar Elm casino is fortunate to take advantage of our proximity to other venues and allow people to more easily move between areas of interest without the hassle of driving."

The trolley runs Thursday through Saturday nights on the hour from 6 p.m. to 3 a.m., as well as from 6 p.m. to midnight after all major BOK Center shows.

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