HD DVD Anyone?

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by EricP

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

It's too bad Blu-Ray won. HD-DVD is really a better format and is more compatable with current fomats and offers alot more advantages over Blu-Ray. I wonder if the name had anything to do with it? The name "Blu-Ray" has a better sound and a high tech ring to it over just plain "HD-DVD"... I don't think it'll matter much in the long run I doubt Blu-Ray will be around long  there's already new stuff in the pipeline that is better than Blu-Ray plus there's talk soon of Laser TV sets coming out with far clearer pictures than Plasma TV sets. Just as soon as everyone re-builds up their movie collection in Blu-Ray, something new will come.[B)]

Blu-ray has higher capacity, that's enough to convince me

Yes, but that's about all the advantages Blu-Ray has and it really is not that much more time- and besides how much more of a movie can you sit and watch anyhow? Two hours is long enough for me.... HD-DVD is more compatable with current DVD's- Plus regular DVD's can play on HD-DVD players they are cheaper to make than Blu-Ray discs and use alot of the same tech and factory equipment to make as  regular DVD's. The pictures are just as clear... Blu-Ray uses very small pits in the disc so they have to be treated with TLC because nicks and scratchs can ruin them more easy. Blu-Ray uses a whole new format and system..  None the less Blu-Ray will become out dated very soon anyhow with something else. IMO HD-DVD is a better, more simple system overall.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

quote:Originally posted by EricP

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

It's too bad Blu-Ray won. HD-DVD is really a better format and is more compatable with current fomats and offers alot more advantages over Blu-Ray. I wonder if the name had anything to do with it? The name "Blu-Ray" has a better sound and a high tech ring to it over just plain "HD-DVD"... I don't think it'll matter much in the long run I doubt Blu-Ray will be around long  there's already new stuff in the pipeline that is better than Blu-Ray plus there's talk soon of Laser TV sets coming out with far clearer pictures than Plasma TV sets. Just as soon as everyone re-builds up their movie collection in Blu-Ray, something new will come.[B)]

Blu-ray has higher capacity, that's enough to convince me

Yes, but that's about all the advantages Blu-Ray has and it really is not that much more time- and besides how much more of a movie can you sit and watch anyhow? Two hours is long enough for me.... HD-DVD is more compatable with current DVD's- Plus regular DVD's can play on HD-DVD players they are cheaper to make than Blu-Ray discs and use alot of the same tech and factory equipment to make as  regular DVD's. The pictures are just as clear... Blu-Ray uses very small pits in the disc so they have to be treated with TLC because nicks and scratchs can ruin them more easy. Blu-Ray uses a whole new format and system..  None the less Blu-Ray will become out dated very soon anyhow with something else. IMO HD-DVD is a better, more simple system overall.

Existing DVD's play on bluray players just like they play on hd-dvd ones. Blu-ray is also expanding capacity where hd-dvd didn't have much ability too. You say this is no advantage yet you can buy a 5 disc version of blade runner. Isn't putting it all on one disc an advantage? Not to mention is that Bluray discs use a different kind of acrylic that is much harder to nick.

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

quote:Originally posted by EricP

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

It's too bad Blu-Ray won. HD-DVD is really a better format and is more compatable with current fomats and offers alot more advantages over Blu-Ray. I wonder if the name had anything to do with it? The name "Blu-Ray" has a better sound and a high tech ring to it over just plain "HD-DVD"... I don't think it'll matter much in the long run I doubt Blu-Ray will be around long  there's already new stuff in the pipeline that is better than Blu-Ray plus there's talk soon of Laser TV sets coming out with far clearer pictures than Plasma TV sets. Just as soon as everyone re-builds up their movie collection in Blu-Ray, something new will come.[B)]

Blu-ray has higher capacity, that's enough to convince me

Yes, but that's about all the advantages Blu-Ray has and it really is not that much more time- and besides how much more of a movie can you sit and watch anyhow? Two hours is long enough for me.... HD-DVD is more compatable with current DVD's- Plus regular DVD's can play on HD-DVD players they are cheaper to make than Blu-Ray discs and use alot of the same tech and factory equipment to make as  regular DVD's. The pictures are just as clear... Blu-Ray uses very small pits in the disc so they have to be treated with TLC because nicks and scratchs can ruin them more easy. Blu-Ray uses a whole new format and system..  None the less Blu-Ray will become out dated very soon anyhow with something else. IMO HD-DVD is a better, more simple system overall.

Existing DVD's play on bluray players just like they play on hd-dvd ones. Blu-ray is also expanding capacity where hd-dvd didn't have much ability too. You say this is no advantage yet you can buy a 5 disc version of blade runner. Isn't putting it all on one disc an advantage? Not to mention is that Bluray discs use a different kind of acrylic that is much harder to nick.

Geeesh- who can find time to watch 5 discs of a old movie- or better yet who will want to? The current DVD's have enough extras as it is. I don't even have time to watch all the extras with the current DVDs... IMO That's just over kill... I read articles about Blue Ray and HD DVD, and they had the "pros" & "Cons" of both formats and when you dig into it, HD DVD really does come out better there's more pluses there than with Blu-Ray. Popular Science mag had alot of stories about that subject as did alot of video mags. None the less I doubt blu-Ray will amount to much, the disc sales are still slow and new formats are coming that will blow blu-ray away with clearer pictures and even better sound. Laser TV is due to come out too.

[TheArtist]

So if Blue Ray has better capacity than HD, yet it doesnt matter because you cant really tell the difference anyway.... What is supposedly in the pipeline that will be better?  If you cant tell the difference now, how could "better" be better?

I dont know what articles Sauerkraut was reading, unless they were the old articles, because the ones I read showed that Blue Ray is better. One thing to remember is that the Blue Ray technology has the capacity to go much further than it presently is.  When Blue Ray and HD-DVD first came out, HD was indeed better, but that technology couldnt upgrade its capacity nearly as much as the Blue Ray technology can. Make sure the articles you are reading are comparing apples to apples, or more importantly, ultimate capacity to ultimate capacity not past or present configurations.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

So if Blue Ray has better capacity than HD, yet it doesnt matter because you cant really tell the difference anyway.... What is supposedly in the pipeline that will be better?  If you cant tell the difference now, how could "better" be better?

I dont know what articles Sauerkraut was reading, unless they were the old articles, because the ones I read showed that Blue Ray is better. One thing to remember is that the Blue Ray technology has the capacity to go much further than it presently is.  When Blue Ray and HD-DVD first came out, HD was indeed better, but that technology couldnt upgrade its capacity nearly as much as the Blue Ray technology can. Make sure the articles you are reading are comparing apples to apples, or more importantly, ultimate capacity to ultimate capacity not past or present configurations.

Was at Sam's Mon morning and saw a Toshiba HD-dvd player for 115.00.  Great buy for someone!!

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

So if Blue Ray has better capacity than HD, yet it doesnt matter because you cant really tell the difference anyway.... What is supposedly in the pipeline that will be better?  If you cant tell the difference now, how could "better" be better?

I dont know what articles Sauerkraut was reading, unless they were the old articles, because the ones I read showed that Blue Ray is better. One thing to remember is that the Blue Ray technology has the capacity to go much further than it presently is.  When Blue Ray and HD-DVD first came out, HD was indeed better, but that technology couldnt upgrade its capacity nearly as much as the Blue Ray technology can. Make sure the articles you are reading are comparing apples to apples, or more importantly, ultimate capacity to ultimate capacity not past or present configurations.

Was at Sam's Mon morning and saw a Toshiba HD-dvd player for 115.00.  Great buy for someone!!

lol They probably wont be able to give them away soon.

[sauerkraut]

To tell ya the truth, I'm just as happy with my VCR and my  old RCA 20" CRT TV set, I'm no movie nut- That's all I need. The drawback I don't like about all DVD's is they force you to watch The "FBI warming" logo and other stuff at the start of a disc, (The DVD player won't skip thru that stuff) with a VCR tape you can fast fwd past all that. I'm an old fashoined guy anyhow. I'm more than happy with the standard DVDs. I also won't be getting a HDTV I'll just have to git the converter box for my TV. Go ahead and rebuild up your movie collections in blu-ray and see how how it lasts till it's outdated.[B)]

[YoungTulsan]

Arent some of these HD-DVD players a good buy to use as an upconverting regular DVD player for a 1080p screen?

I'm probably about to get a nice 1080p 120hz LCD so I'd be interested if someone might have a suggestion for best upconverting DVD player - I'm going to hold off on Blu-ray for a bit.  Not that I'm unsure of Blu-ray, just the fact that it is $400 minimum, PS3 or otherwise - to get a player.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

Arent some of these HD-DVD players a good buy to use as an upconverting regular DVD player for a 1080p screen?

I'm probably about to get a nice 1080p 120hz LCD so I'd be interested if someone might have a suggestion for best upconverting DVD player - I'm going to hold off on Blu-ray for a bit.  Not that I'm unsure of Blu-ray, just the fact that it is $400 minimum, PS3 or otherwise - to get a player.

Many HD-DVD players only upconvert to 720p.

This is the best upconverting DVD player I know of:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N254LU/

Even has a usb port on the front. Will play images/videos off of your jump drive or external hard drive.

[YoungTulsan]

Is it wrong for me to be skeptical of a product simply because it is TOO cheap?  $59 just doesnt seem like it would buy a quality product (DVD player).  I'd expect more of a "disposable" product that I'd just say "screw it" when it breaks.  Perhaps I should just accept that technology has come down in price, and enjoy it?

[sgrizzle]

$59 is because it's been out about a year. Philips produces some very reliable and technically advanced players. I've also known them to play scratched and dirty discs most players reject.

You can find the price pretty similar locally if you want to try it out and return it.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

Arent some of these HD-DVD players a good buy to use as an upconverting regular DVD player for a 1080p screen?

I'm probably about to get a nice 1080p 120hz LCD so I'd be interested if someone might have a suggestion for best upconverting DVD player - I'm going to hold off on Blu-ray for a bit.  Not that I'm unsure of Blu-ray, just the fact that it is $400 minimum, PS3 or otherwise - to get a player.

Many HD-DVD players only upconvert to 720p.

This is the best upconverting DVD player I know of:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N254LU/

Even has a usb port on the front. Will play images/videos off of your jump drive or external hard drive.

yeah that player is nice, just wish the port was on the back.  having a cable coming out the front looks like crap.

[sauerkraut]

Since the "Pitts" are so much smaller on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs in order to get and hold all that data- I wonder if the discs are more prone to "DVD Rot" -that is when the silver lineing inside the disc starts to break down and the data is lost and the disc is worthless. The issues of DVD and cd rot are something to look into before putting down big bucks on a new system. I would never build up a whole movie collection of Blu-Ray movies, I'd just buy a few of the movies that I like, because you can bet it will be outdated in a few years.