home invasions? pancakes?

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Conan wrote
I've got .40 cal hydra-shocks waiting for these a-holes if they can get through either steel case doors or a 2.5" thick hardwood door.

What is tough guy about that?  He didn't say he wants to get them, nor did he imply he was tougher than they are...  he just stated that he has a pistol and implied he would shoot them if they got through his very standard doors.  If the need arose, I imagine most people would have the same basic idea.

Hell, he didn't even imply he would be successful, just what he would do.

On the doors - I have steel screen doors (don't bother locking though), I have decorative steel bars on my windows (whatever you call them, they make one large pane look like smaller pains and probably offer minimal if any real protection) and steel doors with dead bolts to me house.  I didn't add these because I was paranoid, they were put in my midtown home when it was built about 20 years ago.  What's the big deal with his setup?
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This one seems different than the other invasions, probably to the dismay of other criminals as severe acts such as this put low life's in jeopardy. When they just wave a gun and take money, many people will just comply.  Now that someone complied and got executed - it seems likely that compliance will come more difficult and trigger fingers will be a bit more edgy.

I imagine it is tied to this man's past. Here is what I can find on him:

Frederick Anthony Wilson born  08/06/1982:

1. Drug Possession (still paying this fine from 1996)
2. Raped a child with an instrument (one of the 5 men with him took pictures of it apperently)
3. Three separate paternity suits (while married to someone else)
4. Traffic crap (never has a license, etc.)
5. Civil breaking and entering

Not a bad 10 year run.  Keep in mind he probably has Juvenile records that are sealed... seeing how he died at 25.  It is more impressive if you keep in mind that he got 4 years in 1996 and 15 years (plus 7 , concurrent) in 2001 for the rape charge.  

I do not have the full information on the child rape charge, but I'll go out on a limb and assume that he was not on the straight and narrow and was involved with something that got him shot last night.  I can't say he deserved to die, but by the limited information I have society was just saved some trouble.


Date of Offense - 4/17/1996    
Disposed: CONVICTION, 05/30/1996. Guilty Plea.
Count as Disposed:UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED DRUG/FELONY AFCF.  4 Years State, 1 Year City Jail.  

Date Of Offense: 04/01/2001
Disposed: CONVICTION, 06/27/2002.
1 - RAPE BY INSTRUMENTATION (RAPE)
2 - AIDING CHILD TO PERFORM (OC)
3 - ATTEMPTED RAPE BY INSTRUMENTATION
15 Years for Rape concurrent with 7 years for Aiding and Attempted Rape

Civil/DHS Actions:

Filed: 03/07/1996
Paternity Suit.  Default judgment against Wilson.

Filed: 08/15/2000
Issue: FORCIBLE ENTRY & DETAINER <$1500. (small claims).  Disposed: DEFAULT JUDGEMENT, 11/29/2000. Default Judgment.

Offense: 03/25/2001
1- SPEEDING - POSTED ZONE
2- DRIVING WITHOUT A DRIVER'S LICENSE
3- DRIVING WITHOUT OWNERS' SECURITY VERIFICATIN FROM

Filed: 06/17/2003.  Paternity Suit. Dismissed.
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02/13/2006
DIVORCE WITHOUT MINOR CHILDREN Closed: 05/15/2006

Date Of Offense: 02/13/2007.  
Disposed: CONVICTION, 05/21/2007. Nolo Contendere Plea. Count as Disposed:DRIVING UNDER SUSPENSION / DUS (DL2)


[edit]Removed a 1991 DHS action as it was Frederick A. Wilson, but apperently not Frederick Anthony Wilson as he was 9 at the time.  Please correct data if you learn otherwise, just a quick check.  [/edit]

[inteller]

looks like the invaders did us a favor.

[rwarn17588]

Obviously some home invasions are random.

Some of them aren't. I had two neighbors who were known to have been dealing Xanax and other prescription drugs. One night, they claimed they answered the door and two guys beat them within an inch of their lives. Claimed they didn't know them, simply couldn't imagine why this happened, and warned us that we should be on the lookout.

I just nodded my head as they told this story, but I knew better.

In case you're wondering, they moved away not long after that.

BTW, I think having a barking dog behind your door is a far better deterrent than a gun no one can see or is even sure that you have.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Obviously some home invasions are random.

Some of them aren't. I had two neighbors who were known to have been dealing Xanax and other prescription drugs. One night, they claimed they answered the door and two guys beat them within an inch of their lives. Claimed they didn't know them, simply couldn't imagine why this happened, and warned us that we should be on the lookout.

I just nodded my head as they told this story, but I knew better.

In case you're wondering, they moved away not long after that.

BTW, I think having a barking dog behind your door is a far better deterrent than a gun no one can see or is even sure that you have.

Unfortunately, a five pound Yorkie doesn't bark with much authority. []

[cannon_fodder]

I have ~ 150 pounds of dog.  They sooner lick someone to death than actually hurt them, but the noise is probably more important.  You can force me to turn off an alarm, but so much shut my dogs up.

Plus, some people are just afraid of dogs and/or don't realize 95+% of dogs are no threat to anyone.

[Conan71]

Security by Butch:



[}:)]

[Quinton]

I have a sign on my front door that says"if you werent invited you arent welcome and survivors will be prosecuted"

[mdunn]

quote:Originally posted by Quinton

I have a sign on my front door that says"if you werent invited you arent welcome and survivors will be prosecuted"

And I have one the reads"Violators will be shot,Survivors will be shot again!"

[waterboy]

I don't think you are at much risk unless you are dealing drugs like this guy was. The other home invasion was scary but I doubt a sign on the door would have dissuaded them. Now that tooth bearing, snarling Yorkie, there's some protection!

[sauerkraut]

Sometimes there's drugs involved or other illegal activity going on to cause the invasion to happen in the first place. Then other times it's a true robbery. I'm not worried about home invasion robberies at all, I sleep with a loaded gun and have the doors dead-bolted, the noise of anyone breaking thru the door  will wake me up and give me more than ample time to take cover and take aim. There are other crimes that I am more worried about..[xx(]

[TeeDub]

Personally, I can't think of a better sleep aid for those worried about home invasions than this:

http://academy.com/index.php?page=content&target=products/outdoors/hunting/firearms/shotguns_homedefense&start=0&selectedSKU=0350-01883-0231

Only $200 so you can sleep like a baby.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub


Personally, I can't think of a better sleep aid for those worried about home invasions than this:

http://academy.com/index.php?page=content&target=products/outdoors/hunting/firearms/shotguns_homedefense&start=0&selectedSKU=0350-01883-0231

Only $200 so you can sleep like a baby.

Nothing will stop an intruder in their tracks like the sound of a shell being jacked into a pump shotgun.

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


Nothing will stop an intruder in their tracks like the sound of a shell being jacked into a pump shotgun.

Except the shell itself...

/internet tough guy

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


Nothing will stop an intruder in their tracks like the sound of a shell being jacked into a pump shotgun.

Except the shell itself...

/internet tough guy

"Step aside Butch"



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