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Started by Rico, July 27, 2008, 06:00:38 PM

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PonderInc

This was also an example of how Tulsa makes it "hard to do the right thing."  It worked out b/c the developer and the Pearl District neighbors share a vision of the future that is smart and sustainable and human/pedestrian-focused.  This allowed everyone to work together to overcome all the barriers and obstacles entrenched in our city's ordinances and zoning codes.

Take a look at Google Earth (or similar satellite photos) and pay attention to surface parking lots.  I would guess that 99% of them are less than 50% full at any given time (not counting car dealerships, where every space is filled).

It seems that we zone for parking lots based on the needs of "weekend before Christmas" shoppers.  We lay waste to thousands of acres of land, because 5 days out of the year, there might be a chance that the capacity is needed....assuming, of course, single-occupancy vehicles.

In the meantime, throughout the entire year, the parking requirements make it impossible for our retail and commercial areas to be pedestrian and transit-friendly.  Thus, people have to drive...thus, more cars are needed.  Thus more asphalt must be laid, and left to wait around for that one day a year when a car might actually sit upon that wasted 150 SF of space (per parking spot)!

Double A

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Originally posted by JoeMommaBlake

The Eclipse.

Good times.



I used to go there when it was Nitro.
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Double A

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It would be nice to see more lofts like what Metro and Shelby have been doing in NoChe along Peoria in this area.



NoChe is not the name of that area, no matter how hard the Metro Lofts ho's try to make it so.
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brunoflipper

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Originally posted by Double A

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Originally posted by SXSW

 

It would be nice to see more lofts like what Metro and Shelby have been doing in NoChe along Peoria in this area.



NoChe is not the name of that area, no matter how hard the Metro Lofts ho's try to make it so.

"ho's"... pancakes? seems harsh...
"It costs a fortune to look this trashy..."
"Don't believe in riches but you should see where I live..."

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Double A

Ask Shelby Navarro about getting stiffed by them.
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inteller

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Originally posted by Double A

Ask Shelby Navarro about getting stiffed by them.



hos and stiffing?  that sounds kinky.

SXSW

I agree, NoChe is kinda dumb.  It really should just be the Cherry Street neighborhood.  I've heard some people call the neighborhood north of Cherry Street, north of the BA and south of 11th, Benedict Park and others have called it the "Hillcrest" neighborhood.  Curious where the Pearl district begins/ends and Cherry Street and Benedict Park/Hillcrest begins/ends.
 

Double A

The neighborhood association is named the Cherry St. Village Neighborhood association. Their newsletter is the Cherry St. Village Voice. The neighborhood north of the B.A. is Forrest Orchard.  

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booWorld

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Originally posted by PonderInc

It seems that we zone for parking lots based on the needs of "weekend before Christmas" shoppers.  We lay waste to thousands of acres of land, because 5 days out of the year, there might be a chance that the capacity is needed....assuming, of course, single-occupancy vehicles.

In the meantime, throughout the entire year, the parking requirements make it impossible for our retail and commercial areas to be pedestrian and transit-friendly.  Thus, people have to drive...thus, more cars are needed.  Thus more asphalt must be laid, and left to wait around for that one day a year when a car might actually sit upon that wasted 150 SF of space (per parking spot)!



The City requires much more than 150 square feet of all-weather, dust-free, hard surface paving material per off-street parking space.  At the bare minimum, each perpendicular parking space requires 255 square feet of paving.  Each off-street parallel parking space requires a minimum of 348 square feet.

On-street parking at the curb saves the space of the access lanes (because the traffic lanes themselves serve that purpose), the curb cuts, and the driveways necessary for off-street parking lots.  On-street parallel parking at the curb requires about 200 square feet per space.  45 degree angled parking on-street at the curb requires about 225 square feet per space.

booWorld

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Originally posted by Double A

NoChe is not the name of that area...



NoShi !    [;)]

Kenosha

Club Nitro.  Baby M.

NoChe? Whaa?

Nacho.
 

Double A

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Originally posted by Kenosha

Club Nitro.  Baby M.

NoChe? Whaa?

Nacho.



Illegitimate Sons of Jackie O., Crazy George Usden, Bunnies of Doom, Pit Bulls on Crack, those were the days. Oh, the fond (fuzzy)memories of my misspent youth[:D]
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mrB

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...  Curious where the Pearl district begins/ends and Cherry Street and Benedict Park/Hillcrest begins/ends.



The Pearl District boundaries are IDL to the west/244 to the north/Utica to the east/11th St. to the south.