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Started by Conan71, September 17, 2008, 04:18:03 PM

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waterboy

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Originally posted by Gaspar

QuoteOriginally posted by FOTD

You're a darksider, Gasping. The old angry guy will die. She'll be in charge. Don't think so. Handlers and puppet masters....but she wouln't know jack if she got in there.

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another miracle from the mind of John McCain!

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Interesting.
You want change and want experience so you select a guy with no experience that never stuck around enough to make a change.

For a vice president you select a guy who has experience, and who has never changed anything over the past 30 years.

On the other side you see someone who has made massive changes to government going against even his own party.  You also see lots of experience working with prominent democrats and independents to pass sweeping and for the most part positive legislation.

As his running mate you see a candidate who basically shattered the old-boy network in Alaska.  Became the most popular governor in the country among Democrats and Republicans.  Balanced and managed 40 billion dollars worth of state budget.  Ousted and convicted several corrupt politicians, both Republican and Democrat.

Interesting that you talk about change and experience.  I am curious as to how you measure it?

You see I remember an governor that managed a state with only a 2 billion dollar budget, swarming with corruption, the second worst school system in the country, roads that were no better than gravel, and almost the highest unemployment in the country.  Airports that functioned as smugglers paradises. Family members, business associates and friends turning up weekly in a court room, prison, or a grave under odd circumstances.

But for some reason he was experienced enough to be president, and his life-partner was experienced enough to be a senator but not a presidential candidate.

So when I boil it down what I get is that you are seeking this:

McCain & Palin- 1 penis.

Obama & Biden- 2 penises.

Now I understand how the devil thinks.

P.S. I know you probably don't hear this enough. I'm glad you are here to represent your party.  I enjoy reading your thoughtful posts every day.  Thank you for your service to your fellow Democrats. Continue to represent.




Yes, and Bell's was clean, neat, well run and a good neighbor. Spain is in the Southern hemi-sphere and Republicans are anti-regulation. Alaska is the proto-type for reform of earmarking and conservatives believe government should not intervene in business or personal lives. Oh, yeah, Fox News is fair and balanced.

Warm and cozy in there?

Townsend

What's the story on Palin being un-invited to the rally in WI?

Gosh I hope I get my throat ripped out by a loon.

From what I understood in the CNN blurb H. Clinton dropped out when she found out Palin would be there.

I'm not finding the story online yet.

Hoss

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Originally posted by Townsend

What's the story on Palin being un-invited to the rally in WI?

Gosh I hope I get my throat ripped out by a loon.

From what I understood in the CNN blurb H. Clinton dropped out when she found out Palin would be there.

I'm not finding the story online yet.



http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/09/19/sarah-palin-disinvited-from-anti-iran-rally-after-hillary-clinton-backs-out.html

Townsend

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Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Townsend

What's the story on Palin being un-invited to the rally in WI?

Gosh I hope I get my throat ripped out by a loon.

From what I understood in the CNN blurb H. Clinton dropped out when she found out Palin would be there.

I'm not finding the story online yet.



http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/09/19/sarah-palin-disinvited-from-anti-iran-rally-after-hillary-clinton-backs-out.html



Ah, thanks.  It was nothing.

Conan71

Sounds like a turf war...

"She can't address the New York Jews.  They are all ours!  If she does, I won't be there!!!"

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

marc

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Originally posted by joiei

When it is all over I fully expect Palin to put on a short skirt and go to work for Fox.  Just like The Gretch and all the rest of their beauties.  The shorter the skirt the more air time they get.



You certainly paint an accurate picture of Fox.
 

Red Arrow

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Originally posted by marc

quote:
Originally posted by joiei

When it is all over I fully expect Palin to put on a short skirt and go to work for Fox.  Just like The Gretch and all the rest of their beauties.  The shorter the skirt the more air time they get.



You certainly paint an accurate picture of Fox.



I have to admit to watching ABC/NBC/CBS.  Buy stock in Maalox, it's bound to go up.
 

marc

I find CNN much closer to fair and balanced than Fox News.
 

Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by marc

I find CNN much closer to fair and balanced than Fox News.



RRRR in 3...2...1

(That's 'Radical Right Repub Retort')

Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by marc

I find CNN much closer to fair and balanced than Fox News.



Fox "newscasts" are balanced. Fox "commentators" are not.  I think everyone with half a brain knows Hannity is the house organ for the RNC and O'Reilly is pretty much in the tank for them as well.  No mystery there, and neither pretends to be a news cast.

If anyone listened to Meredith Viera grill Bob Bennett last week on Today, it's not too hard to figure out that the majors are in the tank for Obama.  Pay careful attention to the story structure and emphasis on Katie Couric and you can see and hear her bias.  Charlie Gibson?  Sheesh.

That's where lines get blurry- when a newscaster does interviews of candidates or slips in commentary.  I know what I'm getting if I tune into a Fox commentary program, same as I know what I'm getting if I tune in Matthews or J.O. on MSNBC.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by marc

I find CNN much closer to fair and balanced than Fox News.



Fox "newscasts" are balanced. Fox "commentators" are not.  I think everyone with half a brain knows Hannity is the house organ for the RNC and O'Reilly is pretty much in the tank for them as well.  No mystery there, and neither pretends to be a news cast.

If anyone listened to Meredith Viera grill Bob Bennett last week on Today, it's not too hard to figure out that the majors are in the tank for Obama.  Pay careful attention to the story structure and emphasis on Katie Couric and you can see and hear her bias.  Charlie Gibson?  Sheesh.

That's where lines get blurry- when a newscaster does interviews of candidates or slips in commentary.  I know what I'm getting if I tune into a Fox commentary program, same as I know what I'm getting if I tune in Matthews or J.O. on MSNBC.





Such judgements are purely situational. You just can't accurately assess their bias if you have committed to a political view. I think the whole bias issue is pointless anyway. Humans defend their own positions as intelligent and others as moronic.

Whereas I see Chris Matthews as equally critical of each candidate when deserved, you obviously do not. The key is I identify closely with Matthews views so he seems...brilliant!

My mom just told me yesterday of an interview Couric did of Obama and McCain where she detected obvious bias towards McCain. She even described her as sneering at Obama. McCain and Couric have both been victims of cancer (Couric's husband died from it).

I continue to believe that the real and objectionable, detectable bias is in the filmed segments that run practically without comment but are always planned, produced and editted with a thesis in mind. A live interview is hard to control but film is easy and it takes forever to track the producers down and hold them accountable. The networks need content and especially content whose liability rests mostly with the producers.

Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by marc

I find CNN much closer to fair and balanced than Fox News.



Fox "newscasts" are balanced. Fox "commentators" are not.  I think everyone with half a brain knows Hannity is the house organ for the RNC and O'Reilly is pretty much in the tank for them as well.  No mystery there, and neither pretends to be a news cast.

If anyone listened to Meredith Viera grill Bob Bennett last week on Today, it's not too hard to figure out that the majors are in the tank for Obama.  Pay careful attention to the story structure and emphasis on Katie Couric and you can see and hear her bias.  Charlie Gibson?  Sheesh.

That's where lines get blurry- when a newscaster does interviews of candidates or slips in commentary.  I know what I'm getting if I tune into a Fox commentary program, same as I know what I'm getting if I tune in Matthews or J.O. on MSNBC.





Such judgements are purely situational. You just can't accurately assess their bias if you have committed to a political view. I think the whole bias issue is pointless anyway. Humans defend their own positions as intelligent and others as moronic.

Whereas I see Chris Matthews as equally critical of each candidate when deserved, you obviously do not. The key is I identify closely with Matthews views so he seems...brilliant!

My mom just told me yesterday of an interview Couric did of Obama and McCain where she detected obvious bias towards McCain. She even described her as sneering at Obama. McCain and Couric have both been victims of cancer (Couric's husband died from it).

I continue to believe that the real and objectionable, detectable bias is in the filmed segments that run practically without comment but are always planned, produced and editted with a thesis in mind. A live interview is hard to control but film is easy and it takes forever to track the producers down and hold them accountable. The networks need content and especially content whose liability rests mostly with the producers.



It's times like this that I absolutely miss Tim Russert and his ability to be so neutral on everything when interviewing his subjects.  He was equally brutal to both sides.  They knew if an answer was given to him, if you said something to contradict it previously, he'd have it on tape and ready to roll.  Most politicians would say that theirmost nerve racking interview would have to be Sunday morning MTP with Tim.