TROOPERGATE!

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

GOP lawmakers sue to stop Palin investigation

Five Alaska lawmakers file suit to end 'Troopergate' probe


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26742379/

JUNEAU, Alaska - Five Republican state lawmakers filed suit Tuesday to end the bipartisan investigation into Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's firing of the public safety commissioner even though the vice presidential candidate once said she welcomed the probe into allegations of abuse of power.

[SNIP]

Stinks like cheese.

I don't think this was a well-timed move.  At all.

Typical case of Prematureaccusation.  They should have waited until a week or two before the election, then their chances of sensationalizing a steaming load would be greater.

I haven't been seeing a whole lot of wise strategy here.  From the ads in poor taste, to Obama and Biden's personal gaffs to attempting an October surprise in September.  

I mean they even call it "October Surprise" so that the idiots can figure it out.  Duh!

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

GOP lawmakers sue to stop Palin investigation

Five Alaska lawmakers file suit to end 'Troopergate' probe


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26742379/

JUNEAU, Alaska - Five Republican state lawmakers filed suit Tuesday to end the bipartisan investigation into Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's firing of the public safety commissioner even though the vice presidential candidate once said she welcomed the probe into allegations of abuse of power.

[SNIP]

Stinks like cheese.

I don't think this was a well-timed move.  At all.

Typical case of Prematureaccusation.  They should have waited until a week or two before the election, then their chances of sensationalizing a steaming load would be greater.

I haven't been seeing a whole lot of wise strategy here.  From the ads in poor taste, to Obama and Biden's personal gaffs to attempting an October surprise in September.  

I mean they even call it "October Surprise" so that the idiots can figure it out.  Duh!

Hint:  Obama and Biden don't have anything to do with this.

This is aaaaaallll about McCain/Palin.

[FOTD]

The great lesson of the Bush era: cover-ups work
It's a truism repeated in the media at least a hundred times a day: the cover-up is always worse than the crime.

Bull.

If the last seven years prove anything, it's that covering up wrongdoing actually often works like a charm. But the trick is that it has to be carried out audaciously and without mercy. Bush-style cover-ups are definitely not for the faint-hearted. There's no room for ethics, or even shame. You have to be willing to make any argument, no matter how silly: cast any accusation, no matter how groundless.

Never look back; never give in. Attack the victim. Attack the witnesses. Attack the process. Claim that you're the victim of a politically motivated witch-hunt no matter how fair the investigation may be. Charge the investigators with bias.  

Stall, stall and then stall some more. Run out the clock.  

In Bush-style cover-ups, there's no such thing as a discoverable document: everything — every last piece of paper and the paper clips that bind them — must be withheld under claim of executive privilege. No governmental employee must ever be allowed to give testimony in court or before the legislative branch. The only place they can be allowed to speak — even if what they're speaking is a fairy tale (especially if it's a fairy tale) — is on Fox News.

Just say no. Scoff at subpoenas. Grind the rule of law into the ground like a steamroller crushing a dirt clod. Dismiss the legitimacy of oversight. Play the press for suckers.

Cover-ups don't work, you say? Come on — wake up and smell the corruption. Successful use of cover-ups is the only thing that's kept Bush and Cheney in office.

And it would seem that what's good for Bush is also good for Sarah Palin. You remember Troopergate — the investigation Palin promised to give her full cooperation. But that was then. Today, under the tutelage of Bush and McCain Republicans, she now refuses to testify — refusing even to meet informally with the investigators. Not satisfied with that, she's also seen to it — through the intervention of the attorney general she appointed — that no other state employee will cooperate.  

Meanwhile, GOP lawyers have descended upon Alaska by the scores to help with the cover-up. That's the thing about Republicans and lawyers: they hate them except when they need them, which lately has been most of the time.

McCain said during his acceptance speech that he couldn't wait to introduce Sarah Palin to Washington. I don't know about that, but clearly he wasted no time in introducing the ways of Washington to Sarah Palin.

And it appears that the Palin cover-up may be working out just fine and dandy: word is that the Alaska legislature, bending to GOP pressure, may put off its official investigation into Troopergate until after the election (if ever).

McCain/Palin may well end up paying a high price politically for the bad publicity their stonewalling on Troopergate has produced. But please, spare me the lectures about how cover-ups always end up worse for the perpetrators than the original crime: because it just isn't true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/26/opinion/26krugman.html

http://www.lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1445

[FOTD]

What's happened to our country?

  Palin staff won't testify in trooper probe, AG says

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/17/palin.investigation/index.html


It's really time for us to take back our country and hold these people responsible for their actions - NO more refusing subpoenas. If you or any other devil tried to refuse, we would find ourselves in jail quicker than you can say "what me?" - the rule of law has been raped by this administration, including Palin now that she is refusing to cooperate. FOTD is sick and appalled at our country and the path we are currently on.

[swake]

Palin lie documented

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5844710&page=1

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by swake

Palin lie documented

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5844710&page=1

The Legislative sponsored investigation strayed sharply from a Pursuit for the Truth into a Pursuit of the Governor's Head.

Alaska has a strong Governor form of government.  

LEGALLY, the Governor has the RIGHT to fire the Public Safety Commissioner for ANY reason.

She didn't need a reason, although she may have had some personal feelings about the Trooper's boss not adequately disciplining the Trooper's psycho behavior.

[CoffeeBean]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


LEGALLY, the Governor has the RIGHT to fire the Public Safety Commissioner for ANY reason

You could not be more wrong.  

She cannot fire him in retaliation for exercising his Constitutional rights.  She cannot fire him for his political affiliation.  She cannot fire him because of race, gender, religious ideology, etc.

But she did fire him.  And she "welcomed" the investigation, claiming she had nothing to hide.  

Now she is refusing to cooperate with that same investigation.  I think its fair to question her rationale here.      

[pmcalk]

Here's what they think of the situation in Alaska:

quote:Abdication by Palin
When did the McCain campaign take over the governor's office?

Gov. Sarah Palin has surrendered important gubernatorial duties to the Republican presidential campaign. McCain staff are handling public and press questions about actions she has taken as governor. The governor who said, "Hold me accountable," is hiding behind the hired guns of the McCain campaign to avoid accountability.

Is it too much to ask that Alaska's governor speak for herself, directly to Alaskans, about her actions as Alaska's governor?

....

Is the McCain campaign telling Alaskans that Alaska's governor can't handle her own defense in front of her own Alaska constituents?

....

Futile as the request may be, we encourage Gov. Palin to stand up to McCain's handlers and be personally accountable for her administration's response to Troopergate. She is the governor of Alaska, not John McCain or Ed O'Callaghan.

BOTTOM LINE: Official state business -- like Troopergate -- should be handled by the governor of the state, not by McCain presidential campaign operatives.

http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/531725.html

[Conan71]

What's that smell?  Burning rubber?  The Obama camp is losing traction on this.

Anyone doubt now that ABC is in the tank for St. Obama?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by CoffeeBean

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


LEGALLY, the Governor has the RIGHT to fire the Public Safety Commissioner for ANY reason

You could not be more wrong.  

She cannot fire him in retaliation for exercising his Constitutional rights.  She cannot fire him for his political affiliation.  She cannot fire him because of race, gender, religious ideology, etc.

But she did fire him.  And she "welcomed" the investigation, claiming she had nothing to hide.  

Now she is refusing to cooperate with that same investigation.  I think its fair to question her rationale here.      

Oh, I would say Gov. Palin hearing from the Troopers lips that he was going to kill two senior citizens just might, possibly be grounds for discipline.

The Governor overheard the trooper threaten to KILL both of her parents.

Case:  CLOSED.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by CoffeeBean

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


LEGALLY, the Governor has the RIGHT to fire the Public Safety Commissioner for ANY reason

You could not be more wrong.  

She cannot fire him in retaliation for exercising his Constitutional rights.  She cannot fire him for his political affiliation.  She cannot fire him because of race, gender, religious ideology, etc.

But she did fire him.  And she "welcomed" the investigation, claiming she had nothing to hide.  

Now she is refusing to cooperate with that same investigation.  I think its fair to question her rationale here.      

Oh, I would say Gov. Palin hearing from the Troopers lips that he was going to kill two senior citizens just might, possibly be grounds for discipline.

The Governor overheard the trooper threaten to KILL both of her parents.

Case:  CLOSED.

Then why doesn't she testify to it?

Something to hide maybe?

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by CoffeeBean

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


LEGALLY, the Governor has the RIGHT to fire the Public Safety Commissioner for ANY reason

You could not be more wrong.  

She cannot fire him in retaliation for exercising his Constitutional rights.  She cannot fire him for his political affiliation.  She cannot fire him because of race, gender, religious ideology, etc.

But she did fire him.  And she "welcomed" the investigation, claiming she had nothing to hide.  

Now she is refusing to cooperate with that same investigation.  I think its fair to question her rationale here.      

Oh, I would say Gov. Palin hearing from the Troopers lips that he was going to kill two senior citizens just might, possibly be grounds for discipline.

The Governor overheard the trooper threaten to KILL both of her parents.

Case:  CLOSED.

Then why doesn't she testify to it?

Something to hide maybe?

You are wise to question his brazen remarks.

She is not in control of her own life at this point whether she wants to testify or not. The Ma&Pa Kettle ticket has too much at stake to be messing with this tempest in a teapot. It will fade soone enough as well as any chance of finding out what really happened.

[FOTD]

Unelected, Unappointed McCain Officials Running Alaska

http://allspinzone.com/wp/2008/09/21/unelected-unappointed-mccain-officials-running-alaska/

The Troopergate scandal is taking on some odd twists. It seems that the McCain campaign, as a result of the scandal, is actually running the state of Alaska now, unelected and unappointed. Further, these McCain staffers running Alaska are making the kind of whiney excuses and incompetent decisions worthy of McBush.

There's more in the LA Times today. Even Republicans in Alaska are complaining that the unelected McCain campaign has taken over governance in the state.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-troopergate21-2008sep21,0,2158301.story

Those Alaskans better wake up and realize that it is God's will that they be ruled from Wash DC by Republicans.

[FOTD]

Green: 'They're attacking nice people, saying things that aren't true.'

"Calling herself a "raging Republican," Green says, she is "absolutely disgusted, embarrassed, and ashamed" by the McCain-Palin campaign's intervention in the Troopergate probe."

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/131724