And I thought only Palin hated them there Jews...

[unknown]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

Jessie?  Is that you?

Explain to me why we should be giving them billons of our dollars that could be spent on our crumbling infrastructure?

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by unknown

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

Jessie?  Is that you?

Explain to me why we should be giving them billons of our dollars that could be spent on our crumbling infrastructure?

For the same reason we spend money on defense projects, intelligence gathering and variety of other national security projects. Israel is the only strongly democratic voice in the region and their survival and hence the stability of the region depend, in large part, on their strength and stability.

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

I knew about FaraKKKhan and Father Pflager's antisemitic comments, but honestly I don't pay attention to Jack$on or $harpton.

I don't really know where Obama stands on Israel since he is on record saying both that Jerusalem should remain undivided and that the status of Jerusalem would be "negotiatied in future peace talks."

I do know that he sat in Wright's pews for 20 years and that FaraKKKhan received the "Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer" Award, whatever the hell that is. FaraKKKhan has called Judaism a "gutter religion."

I'm sure this is all a distraction though.  I'm sure that Wright never heard those statements from FaraKKKhan, just like Obama never heard Wright's anti-american rants...

I think a pattern is emerging.

Deja vu all over again.  Every four years, the republicans try to win over the Jewish vote by claiming that the democrats will be less friendly to Isreal.  It doesn't work--Jews consistently vote for democrats--voting for Kerry by 78%.  This year, McCain actually had a shot at winning over some over, mostly because Jews take very seriously accusations that Obama is a Muslim (not that I fault them on that).

But McCain's choice of Palin completely eliminated that potential, and probably cost him Florida.  The only thing more frightening to Jews than a Muslim is a right-wing anti-intellectual religious zealot.  From Newsweek:

quote:
Like many Jews in south Florida, Todd and Jamie Ehrenreich are registered Democrats who have faithfully cast ballots for their party's presidential nominees as long as they can remember. But this year, they'd decided to back Sen. John McCain, the Republican candidate. "We are over the $250,000 tax bracket, and we didn't want to lose our money," Jamie says. "We wanted to benefit from our own American dream."

Then McCain selected Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate—and "lost us in one fell swoop," says Jamie, who lives with her husband and two kids in Miami. She finds so much about Palin objectionable that she almost doesn't know where to begin. There's the abortion issue, for one. Palin "wouldn't want anyone to have an abortion even for rape or incest," says Jamie. "Who is she to judge by telling me how to live my life and overturning the things women have worked so hard for?" Equally disconcerting is Palin's seeming shallowness on some of the most pressing matters facing the country. "She doesn't know what she is talking about and makes it up as she goes along," says Jamie. "The fact that she had to be coached for two weeks [to prepare for the vice presidential debate] tells me she doesn't know anything. She just talks in circles."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/163348

Quoting from Westbrook Pegler ("we grow good people in our small towns"), who was kicked out of the John Birch society for being too anti-semitic, certainly didn't endear her to Jews.

So now that McCain is down in the polls in Florida, people like IP are trying to tie Obama to any antisemitic black person they can think of.

[iplaw]

I don't have to "tie" him to any of these baffoons.  He's openly associated himself with them for his entire political career.