OSU Big 12 Football Champions

[nathanm]

Yeah, its different here.

I am more than a little surprised that you can't understand what I'm saying. Doesn't matter really. Football rules.

No, I understand the concept perfectly well. The idea is that universities with profitable football programs see their state appropriations replaced by football money. (Or that appropriations get replaced by lottery money here in Oklahoma) I merely pointed out that at the one football school I'm familiar enough with to know approximate numbers and find exact numbers, that didn't actually happen.

[AquaMan]

In OK they play the budget slight of hand.

The way I see the academic world now, as a father who has put one through and has another one to go shortly, is different than the way I saw them when I was a young man. Its a matter of balance to me now. Had Arkansas not built up a huge and successful football program that seems to have paid for itself, they could have spent the money in other places to make them a more attractive school in lots of areas. College has become an extension of high school dominated by fraternities that teach you to drink, and a semi-pro football organization that serves as a profit center while it entertains its region and alums. Academics seem to be a by-product. In the bigger picture we need fewer successful football programs and more successful academic programs to compete with the rest of the world.

Good examples of well balanced colleges might be TU and Stanford. They register occasional, notable successes in sports, but offer high graduation rates, well respected programs and motivated students. You ever see TU try to boost their football program again its a bad sign for them.

So where's my kid want to go? OU of course.

[Red Arrow]

So where's my kid want to go? OU of course.

It's possible to get a good education at OU. I know a few grads from there, my sister included.  It will be easier on your wallet than many other choices.

[DolfanBob]

If I were to make up a fake resume. It most certainly would have T.U. as my graduate college. The business World knows what they produce over there off 11th st.

[nathanm]

The way I see the academic world now, as a father who has put one through and has another one to go shortly, is different than the way I saw them when I was a young man. Its a matter of balance to me now. Had Arkansas not built up a huge and successful football program that seems to have paid for itself, they could have spent the money in other places to make them a more attractive school in lots of areas.

The university didn't pay for most of it themselves. Donors did. Donors who like sports. Donors also paid for a really nice B-school, the renovation of Old Main, the renovation of Carnall Hall, and more.