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Can't Buy an AR-15? Print One!

Started by patric, March 09, 2013, 02:15:38 PM

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patric

"Download this gun": 3D-printed semi-automatic fires over 600 rounds
And the Department of Justice says there's nothing illegal about it, either.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/download-this-gun-3d-printed-semi-automatic-fires-over-600-rounds/



The law student said that anyone with the same type of 3D printer ("SLA resin and P400 ABS on a used Dimension") could replicate his efforts with "9 to 12 hours" of print time and "$150 to $200" in parts. "We've proven that you can build one for $50," he said, presuming the builder is using lower quality materials. (Dimensions typically sell in the $30,000 range—but Wilson says his results could be duplicated using the less-expensive Ultimaker ($1,500) or Reprap."

Now I know what you're thinking;  "Can you print your own 3D printer with a 3D printer?"   ;D

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

State Department Demands Takedown Of 3D-Printable Gun Files For Possible Export Control Violations
"The battle for control of dangerous digital shapes may have just begun."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/05/09/state-department-demands-takedown-of-3d-printable-gun-for-possible-export-control-violation/

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Gaspar

I can make a .22 out of a cross pen, a Swingline 7 series stapler and a rubber band.

I wouldn't waste my time making parts for guns with a 3D printer, instead, I would make the parts to make another 3D printer.  I would probably want to write some software to improve the design each time, and then I would create Skynet!

Game Over
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on May 09, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
I can make a .22 out of a cross pen, a Swingline 7 series stapler and a rubber band.

I wouldn't waste my time making parts for guns with a 3D printer, instead, I would make the parts to make another 3D printer.  I would probably want to write some software to improve the design each time, and then I would create Skynet!

Game Over

Skynet is already done....
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Ed W

Just a thought...but can you use a 3D printer to make another 3D printer?

And there's this:

Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Conan71

Now that the frenzy is over, I believe you can buy an AR-15 cheaper than a 3-D printer.  I think I'd just as soon buy the damn gun if I needed or wanted one.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

TeeDub


Regardless, you still need a barrel.   Maybe we should be more like the Europeans and register the barrels instead of the receivers.   

Kinda makes more sense.

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

TheArtist

The little round thing is the barrel.   

You don't have to purchase your own printer do you?   If I were to "borrow" a friends printer and print a gun, how would that violate any laws? 

I still don't get exactly how blueprints for a gun, really equal a gun any more than they ever did?   
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Conan71

Quote from: TheArtist on May 10, 2013, 07:48:52 AM


I still don't get exactly how blueprints for a gun, really equal a gun any more than they ever did?   

Anti-gun nuttery rhetoric seems to be as bad as extreme gun nuttery rhetoric.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on May 09, 2013, 09:39:12 PM
Now that the frenzy is over, I believe you can buy an AR-15 cheaper than a 3-D printer.  I think I'd just as soon buy the damn gun if I needed or wanted one.

You can, but I would recommend a better weapon.  Most ARs are dinky and cheap knockoffs.  Go with an ACR 6.8mm. 

As for 3D printed guns, it would be cheeper to buy a lathe, band cutter and drill press at the hardware store and machine your own barrels, and parts from steel.  You wouldn't even need to learn CAD or 3D modeling, and the added bonus would be that your guns wouldn't blow up in your hand!

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Gaspar on May 10, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
As for 3D printed guns, it would be cheeper to buy a lathe, band cutter and drill press at the hardware store and machine your own barrels, and parts from steel.  You wouldn't even need to learn CAD or 3D modeling, and the added bonus would be that your guns wouldn't blow up in your hand!

It would probably be easier for most people to learn CAD and 3D Modeling than to become a machinist.  A lathe, band saw, and drill press won't be exactly cheap either if you get decent ones.
 

custosnox

bah, just give me a shovel

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b4_1354773101

when it comes down to it, if someone wants a gun bad enough, there are always ways.

heironymouspasparagus

Some big cities have wrongheadedly chosen to try to outlaw gun ownership in the city limits.  Here is one that has finally gotten it right!!  Good for them!!

http://news.yahoo.com/brady-campaign-sues-ga-town-125047642.html

And if the Brady Bunch Clowns are against it, you KNOW it has to be good!!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.