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Started by Gaspar, October 01, 2013, 07:30:19 AM

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patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

Of course the bill to reopen government wasn't without a few ticks and fleas:

QuoteSo much for a "clean" bill. The measure passed by Congress to fund the government and raise the debt ceiling also contains some goodies and gifts tucked into the 35-page bill.

There's more money -- a lot more -- for a dam project on the Ohio River and millions of cash for Colorado flooding repair projects. And the wealthy widow of a late U.S. senator will receive a year's pay as a death benefit.

You have to hand it to a Congress that finds no bill is off limits for pork.

"These people are like alcoholics. They can't resist taking a drink. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous," said Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona to the Daily Beast, referring to the dam project. "It shows that there are people in this body who are willing to use any occasion to get an outrageous pork-barrel project done at the cost of millions and millions of dollars. It's disgusting."

Here are five most surprising provisions to the bill:

1. RIVER PROJECT

Kentucky kickback?: $2.2 billion. That's the amount in additional cash authorized for a project that involved a dam and decades-old locks on a river that flows through Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's home state of Kentucky. Sounds kinda fishy, but a Democratic senate aid and a Republican senator say it's on the level. The aide tells CNN that McConnell didn't push for the project to be included. And Sen. Lamar Alexander, who's a key figure on the committee that oversees what water projects get what money, says he and another senator asked for the cash. He tells CNN's Chris Frates the new money -- which more than triples the original $775 million -- will save the federal government many millions because contracts won't be canceled due to work stoppages. Still, the Senate Conservatives Fund calls the money a "Kentucky Kickback."

2. FLOOD RECOVERY FUNDS

Bridge to somewhere: This one's a lot less controversial than the river project money. Congress OK'd $450 million for rebuilding projects in flood-struck areas of Colorado. That's well over the limit of $100 million for the Department of Transportation as allowed in the Disaster Relief Appropriations Act. Wednesday's authorization used similar language to a bill that died last month after the House declined to vote on it, according to Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado. He said Coloradans had been resilient, but they needed the money because "it's time to let us get to work" rebuilding roads and bridges wiped out by overflowing rivers.


3. LATE SENATOR'S WIDOW

For decades of service: Frank Lautenberg served in the Senate for almost 30 years. He died in June of viral pneumonia. This nation owed him a great deal. Congress has almost always approved a death benefit gift to the family equal to one year's salary, which they provided for Lautenberg's widow, Bonnie, in the bill. The thing is ... Lautenberg was one of the richest members of Congress and was worth more than $59 million as of 2011, according to The Hill. You can see why some people think it might not be a terrible thing to forgo $174,000 to the family.

4. OTHER WINNERS

Ssssh, we're getting a big check: There were more agencies that got big money in the bill. Agencies that fight wildfires could get as much as $636 million, depending on how bad it gets in the next year. The mine safety department is getting a bump in the fees it can keep, a $1 million increase to $2.49 million. A watchdog group meant to guard Americans' right to privacy against overreach by government cyberintelligence will get $3.1 million, which they could use considering the year they've had dealing with revelations about the super-secret National Security Agency's programs. The Hill, a political newspaper, reports that's double the top amount the five-member panel has been given before.

5. SAME PAY FOR CONGRESS

No raise this year: Down on page 20 of the bill, it says there will be no cost of living adjustment for members of Congress for the next year. Actually, it's not that surprising. Congressional pay has held steady for years. They last received a raise four years ago. And you thought you had it rough. Wait, you don't make $174,000 a year?

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

I figured someone would bring up the dam project. Apparently a lot of journalists don't understand the difference between an authorization and an appropriation. Authorization, which is what the dam project did, essentially says "we'll spend this money some time, plan for it to be this much." No money flows until the appropriation happens.

The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board gets "double" its last appropriation because it's actually becoming operational now. It has to pay for office space and (a few) admin positions, buy IT equipment, and whatever else is involved in opening up a new office.

I am annoyed that after all the talk of a clean CR they put other smile in it. I would have given them a complete pass if it were just the money for rebuilding washed out roads and the extra firefighting reserve funds, both are needed. The rest could have waited.

Interesting how the article doesn't mention that the Republicans did get something out of the deal, too: Income verification prior to getting the exchange's advance tax credit instead of it being adjusted at tax time if you turn out to have estimated incorrectly. I don't think it matters much, but it will be duplicated effort on the part of the IRS. They still have to do the calculations with your final income each year, after all. Who knows, the interest we save on the advance credit might be more than the cost of however many million income verifications. (probably not much either way)
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on October 18, 2013, 12:56:28 AM
I am annoyed that after all the talk of a clean CR they put other smile in it.

Define "clean".

;D
 

guido911

Was anyone laughing over the R poll numbers following the shut down? This should be a hoot....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/13/fox-news-poll-republicans-regain-ground-on-congressional-ballot/

That was sure quick....And Obama is cratering. But Congress sucks as a whole, so there is that... ::)



And polls still suck.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.