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Morbid Milestone: 3000th American KIA in Iraq

Started by Route66Kid, December 31, 2006, 04:26:34 PM

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MichaelC

The 70s oil crisis had to do with OPEC, US oil consumption, declining US oil production, Israeli-Arab relations.  The Iranian Revolution had a to be a cherry on top after all of that.  Most of the 70s, our buddy (the highly corrupt and slightly evil Shah) was still in full control over Iran.

As for the Cold War, we used that as an excuse to explain many poor decisions.  Even by the 50s, the Soviet Union was drifting toward becoming a hollowed out husk of a "Super Power."  By the 70s, it was just a matter of when, rather than if.  

As for Soviet effects on Iran if we hadn't "acted", which would be completely unknown, take Nasser in Egypt for example.  When the French, British, and Israeli's tried to stop Nasser from nationalizing the Suez Canal, the US stepped up and told our "allies" to knock it off.  Nasser used the Soviets for military equipment and construction projects (like Aswan), then told them to piss off.  

The Soviets installed no one in the Middle East, as far as I remember (other than in Afghanistan).  They had plenty of allies, but usually those alliances were temporary and costly to the Soviets.

rwarn17588

You need to brush up on your history, truth4freedom. Everything Michael C has said so far is accurate.

Based on your endline, I guess you're mad at yourself.


truth4freedom

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Originally posted by rwarn17588

You need to brush up on your history, truth4freedom. Everything Michael C has said so far is accurate.

Based on your endline, I guess you're mad at yourself.



If you're using Wiki for your history, then you need to do so yourself. Everything Michael C has said so far is his interpretation of history based on his worldview, as my interpretation is based on mine. I know you don't like any opposing opinions, and resort to baiting and character attacks here, but please try and refrain just this once in the name of honest debate. I know it's a new concept, but you can do it!

I guess the use of designators in the English language escapes you, but that's for another topic.

Kiah

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Originally posted by truth4freedom

I know you don't like any opposing opinions, and resort to baiting and character attacks here, but please try and refrain just this once in the name of honest debate. I know it's a new concept, but you can do it!

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Originally posted by truth4freedom

My being angry is directly proportional to your being stupid.


Nice.
 

rwarn17588


jamesrage

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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those

tim huntzinger

What do you all make of recruiting numbers staying the course?  Because of higher attrition rates the military had a goal of 80K, and only recruited 73K.

Are these recuits mentally ill? Xenophobic killers? Brainwashed Bush clones?  Ne'erdowells with no other options?

In short, there seems to be no deterring those who show no fear in being in the class of 4k . . .


Breadburner

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Originally posted by tim huntzinger

What do you all make of recruiting numbers staying the course?  Because of higher attrition rates the military had a goal of 80K, and only recruited 73K.

Are these recuits mentally ill? Xenophobic killers? Brainwashed Bush clones?  Ne'erdowells with no other options?

In short, there seems to be no deterring those who show no fear in being in the class of 4k . . .



Do you still walk out the door and hop in the car to go to work.....
 

tim huntzinger

You talking to me? MUST be talkin' to me . . . [;)]

And the vehicle i get in is actually designed for that task and does a good job.  The humvee, by contrast, was designed to replace the venerable jeep - a rear-echelon vehicle for non-combat tasks (hm boy, but those hummers look great all spiffed-up!)

And my CEO has not lost confidence of his shareholders. And my COO did not tell the Board that the Company is failing in its most ambitious, costly project.

And I do it - jump in my car - for the money. My pay is above the national average.  I am not shot at routinely.  And there is not a non-stop drumbeat of negativity about my company (QUIET, Grizz!)