New hotel planned

[Aa5drvr]

I remember an interview with John Q. Hammons who was telling this story; he had been told, and was of the same opinion, that 5 miles either side of the Creek Turpike up to about 71st on 169 was likely to be some of the most in demand real estate in the state of OK. He had taken a helicopter ride of that area and was enthusiastic about the opportunity at 71 and 169.

In the same interview, they asked him why he didnt build his hotel downtown and his response was kind of like,  "Well, duh! Nobody goes downtown unless they have to.  Why would I build a hotel where nobody goes?"

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Aa5drvr

I remember an interview with John Q. Hammons who was telling this story; he had been told, and was of the same opinion, that 5 miles either side of the Creek Turpike up to about 71st on 169 was likely to be some of the most in demand real estate in the state of OK. He had taken a helicopter ride of that area and was enthusiastic about the opportunity at 71 and 169.

In the same interview, they asked him why he didnt build his hotel downtown and his response was kind of like,  "Well, duh! Nobody goes downtown unless they have to.  Why would I build a hotel where nobody goes?"

hahaha....never heard that interview, but it sounds funny.

[joiei]

I saw on the aloft site that Rogers Arkansas is getting one also.  AT New Hope Road and 540.  Just to add to the suburban shopping hell that that place is becoming.

[bacjz00]

Nice to see we're keeping up with Rogers, Arkansas.

[deinstein]

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[MarkPotts]

A new hotel in Tulsa? Just more low-wage service work for a city that already has a high-school level economy -- or worse, given the influx of low-skilled Latinos lately. What about attracting businesses that hire college-educated people who add real value to the economy, and earn the high wages to show for it?

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by MarkPotts

A new hotel in Tulsa? Just more low-wage service work for a city that already has a high-school level economy -- or worse, given the influx of low-skilled Latinos lately. What about attracting businesses that hire college-educated people who add real value to the economy, and earn the high wages to show for it?

Hi Altruism or Paul.  Don't you ever get tired of registering new accounts?

I didn't see one post on here that bragged about the new hotel as a way to add significant jobs to the community.  Hotels are not job engines, generally they are a reflection of a growing economy (thus demanding more hotels).  Do you sigh every time you see a retailer, restaurant, or gas station going in because that isnt the right way to grow jobs?

Lets all band together to fight this hotel because it isnt bringing good jobs.  Along with the QT where Camelot stood.  In fact, lets push all business that dont have good jobs out of the city.  I can get gas in Owasso if I want it, but we don't need crappy jobs like that in Tulsa!

Ignorance is frustrating.

[joiei]

I would be willing to bet that the management team of that new hotel requires some kind of training, and pays better than the maids.  It just requires more maids than it does managers.  Who do you want to work as maids?  Who is applying for those jobs?  What is wrong with Hispanic maids, for me they do a darn good job.

[buckeye]

quote:Originally posted by Floyd


No doubt, a lot of people who visit don't want to go somewhere where they have to wait for a table, be surrounded by loud, pretty, young people, and overpay for an entree.  But I know that's the audience Starwood's W Hotels caters to, and I assume it's the same demographic this new line is chasing.

Consider my most recent trip to Texas Roadhouse: I waited quite a while for a table and was surrounded by stentorian, middle aged, ugly, fat entitled suburbanites and overpaid for a mediocre steak.  Ultimately the patrons at all these places are the same - boorish loudmouths, whether rich, poor, ugly, beautiful, suburban, hipster...it's just a question of whether you'd prefer to drive from one place to the next or walk.  Misanthropic enough?    The only place I feel really good about atmosphere, clientele, service, food quality and value is Thai Siam.  Of course, it's easy to get to by car and easy access by foot to other businesses, but there's barely one other business in that plaza I'd go to - shoe repair!

Actually, it's far easier to navigate Brookside on foot than it is 71st by car.

[DM]

quote:Originally posted by MarkPotts

A new hotel in Tulsa? Just more low-wage service work for a city that already has a high-school level economy -- or worse, given the influx of low-skilled Latinos lately. What about attracting businesses that hire college-educated people who add real value to the economy, and earn the high wages to show for it?

Guess what? I am a latino that is college educated and have a very good job. Just because a person is brown does not mean that we are not educated. That would be a racist stereotype. Just in case you did not know. [B)]

[DM]

quote:Originally posted by buckeye

quote:Originally posted by Floyd


No doubt, a lot of people who visit don't want to go somewhere where they have to wait for a table, be surrounded by loud, pretty, young people, and overpay for an entree.  But I know that's the audience Starwood's W Hotels caters to, and I assume it's the same demographic this new line is chasing.

Consider my most recent trip to Texas Roadhouse: I waited quite a while for a table and was surrounded by stentorian, middle aged, ugly, fat entitled suburbanites and overpaid for a mediocre steak.  Ultimately the patrons at all these places are the same - boorish loudmouths, whether rich, poor, ugly, beautiful, suburban, hipster...it's just a question of whether you'd prefer to drive from one place to the next or walk.  Misanthropic enough?    The only place I feel really good about atmosphere, clientele, service, food quality and value is Thai Siam.  Of course, it's easy to get to by car and easy access by foot to other businesses, but there's barely one other business in that plaza I'd go to - shoe repair!

Actually, it's far easier to navigate Brookside on foot than it is 71st by car.

Wow, whats with all the name calling? uneducated latinos? fat entitled suburbanites? Maybe its all the rain that we have had that is making people think they are it and everyone else is beneath them. Hmmm. Thats to bad. This was an interesting thread too.

[perspicuity85]

quote:Originally posted by MarkPotts

A new hotel in Tulsa? Just more low-wage service work for a city that already has a high-school level economy -- or worse, given the influx of low-skilled Latinos lately. What about attracting businesses that hire college-educated people who add real value to the economy, and earn the high wages to show for it?

An ignorant post from someone that has no business knowledge whatsoever.  Perhaps it is you who is devaluing the Tulsa economy and work force with your lack of education.