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Panel for "Street Needs"

Started by Trams, September 13, 2007, 09:24:56 PM

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Rico

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

Rico Suave works for the betterment of Tulsa, and like most others who have tried to make a difference, cynicism does tend to get the best of them at times.





Et tu sgrizzle........ First it was RM that you defrocked.. Now me..[:(]




I defrocked you.. and RM?

I was just trying to defend your honor against Le`Arteest.

Just kidding amigo...

I doubt either RM or myself were frocked to begin with...

Oh... [:O] that didn't sound quite right.

RecycleMichael

I have had worse said about me, actually, pretty regularly.

Back to the topic...

I am very interested in the conclusions about the Tulsa street needs. It is a pretty good group of workers and their opinions might carry a lot of sway.

I was a paid campaign staffer back in the eighties for the street commissioner's re-election bid. If there is one thing I learned on the campaign trail is that everybody is a traffic engineer. Everyone thought that traffic would flow better and safer if you just put a stop sign here or timed the lights just so. I can't imagine where the group is going to start on issues like rehabilitation, widening, etc.

What projects get priority will be interesting.

J.D. Metcalfe used to say "It is very difficult to be politically correct, engineeringly sound and perfectly timed".
Power is nothing till you use it.

rwarn17588

One thing the panel should do won't cost any local money -- lean on the state and feds to get busy in fixing the expressways through this town. The 15th Street Bridge on the BA comes to mind.

Sangria

I would love to volunteer to be on the Street decision making pannel - where do I go to volunteer?


All I lack of being one of the River Project beggers is a couple billion dollars and I am there.

Oh, and I have not perfected my kathy Taylor donkey kiss yet.... haven't had time to work on it.

I just don't think this should be made a county concern. If it's worth doing, someone will come up with the money and do it up right and not half assed like only the local governments can do. Just like they did on Jenks.

TheArtist

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Originally posted by Sangria

I would love to volunteer to be on the Street decision making pannel - where do I go to volunteer?


All I lack of being one of the River Project beggers is a couple billion dollars and I am there.

Oh, and I have not perfected my kathy Taylor donkey kiss yet.... haven't had time to work on it.

I just don't think this should be made a county concern. If it's worth doing, someone will come up with the money and do it up right and not half assed like only the local governments can do. Just like they did on Jenks.



Usually any project as large as this will have many different issues, questions, task forces, need to organize public meetings, do research, etc. They would probably love to have someone volunteer some time to help with different things. Be aware it will require a big commitment of your time. I would just call some city office and ask around, hopefully someone will know where to send you or to whome to talk to.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

YoungTulsan

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Originally posted by Sangria


I just don't think this should be made a county concern. If it's worth doing, someone will come up with the money and do it up right and not half assed like only the local governments can do. Just like they did on Jenks.



The panel for street needs is not a county deal.  It is a city deal.  The county has nothing to do with maintainance and repair of streets within Tulsa City Limits.  They take care of the backwoods roads out in the sticks.
 

Sangria

Did you see Randi Miller on tv last night?

She said something to the effect: People think this tax is going to pay to fix Tulsa streets. Even if it did , it could not be for 7 years down the road.

Sooooo, one can only assume that this is another temprary tax that will be a burden for the rest of our lives.

swake

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Originally posted by YoungTulsan

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Originally posted by Sangria


I just don't think this should be made a county concern. If it's worth doing, someone will come up with the money and do it up right and not half assed like only the local governments can do. Just like they did on Jenks.



The panel for street needs is not a county deal.  It is a city deal.  The county has nothing to do with maintainance and repair of streets within Tulsa City Limits.  They take care of the backwoods roads out in the sticks.



That's not entirely true, the county also handles streets when they fall on the city limits of two cities, like Memorial between Tulsa and Bixby or Garnett between Tulsa and BA.


sgrizzle

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Originally posted by Sangria

Did you see Randi Miller on tv last night?

She said something to the effect: People think this tax is going to pay to fix Tulsa streets. Even if it did , it could not be for 7 years down the road.

Sooooo, one can only assume that this is another temprary tax that will be a burden for the rest of our lives.



I don't interpret it that way, I think she is saying either possible overages taken in after 7 years or that is when we will start feeling revenue effects.