Jenks shopping Center's

[fung shui]

Has anyone taken a look at this "service"? Looks like an eighth grader's My Space. Don't think this is an attempt by a business, chamber or the City of Jenks.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by buzz words

Thank you for the whipping of wisdom.  So you don't think that Jenks has the income for a delivery system?  The median income in Jenks is $74,000.  The Artist What about that loan?

I think it's usually $125,000+ before you really get into the manservant crowd.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I would like a fish sandwich from the cafe at the aquarium.

What is the delivery charge to east Tulsa?

You can get that fish sandwich on a rubber beessquit.

A souvenir shop for the fans of the high school football team would be a needed service.....

gas stations to get back and forth from the new Wal Mart, Target and Lowes off 75.....


Bowling?

Nordstroms.....right

They already have one of these on Main St I believe.

[safetyguy]

I believe the spirit store closed and Windows by Jeff went in.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by spoonbill

I love reading this forum early in the morning.   My prediction for the new year:

Jenks will continue to grow and prosper due to entrepreneurial dreamers (Some with good ideas, some with bad).  When a business fails in Jenks, the owner will pout for a very short time and then follow his/her next big dream.

. . . meanwhile Tulsa will continue to atrophy because of boundless negativity, and an almost joyous celebration of doom and gloom that can only be cured by boosting taxes.

Tulsa's lack in the understanding of economic development is almost complete.  The Tulsa Chamber economic development department is filled with people chasing their own "side-businesses", and the rabid tax scheming has begun on the government side.

Strangely, I find myself agreeing with you. Its like Tulsa is the staid middle aged conformist who abhors change, and hates the young guns for their endless energy and vitality.

Refer to Office Depot's delivery system. Similar to alot of big box operations. They constantly are tweaking it because of the increasing costs of warehousing, fleet maintenance, insurance, fuel comsumption, labor and administration. They are lucky to accomplish 3 day delivery on large items, though smaller office items can be made quickly. From what I can tell, its an effort to merely retain market share rather than increase profitability. Delivery systems as you have described are nightmarish, expensive and unnecessary. UPS et.al. do a fantastic job because that is all they do. Retailers struggle with it.

The online experience is great but it won't replace bricks and mortar, it will blend with them. I remember a successful cigar chomping ad exec telling me 25 years ago that print advertising (newspapers, tabloids, mailers) were dying elephants. He argued that the advent of personal computers, cable TV proliferation and the hundreds of new tv channels would mean cheap effective electronic advertising for all.
He was wrong. My mailbox is full of mailers each day, newspapers remain the most profitable media for its owners and TV is being eclipsed by internet for content. Moliere-The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Breadburner]

Yes...Tulsa without Jenks would be nothing....Yaaawnnn.....

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by buzz words

Thank you for the whipping of wisdom.  So you don't think that Jenks has the income for a delivery system?  The median income in Jenks is $74,000.  The Artist What about that loan?

Open a good "bricks and mortar" store in the River District and I would consider it. May cost more up front but will definitely get you a larger return in the end.

Sure the people of Jenks can afford "a delivery system" but when part of your argument rested on gasoline prices going up to 3.50 a gallon as a reason for why people would not drive... If they can afford a delivery system, they can afford to drive.


One thing here. I am not against entrepreneurship, I started my own business. I am certainly not against someone trying to make a business like this work. What urked me was how this thread started. It seemed insulting, manipulative and tacky.  If someone with this new company had just come on here, honestly and up front said something to the effect. "Hello, I am friends with, or part of, a group of people trying to start this company in Jenks... Check it out." I would have taken an entirely different approach in responding. I would have been eager to help if I could. I still haven't checked out the website, and I am not going to. I do not like feeling as if I am being manipulated or treated like an idiot even on a small matter such as this.

I dont like being so negative, but I despise "sales pitches" and BS. I, like most people, just want up front honesty. The approach was NOT a good first impression and I think most people on here felt that way.  

[safetyguy]

If it wasn't for the suburbs expanding, renovating, bringing new business to the area the Tulsa area would be pretty dead since they move at the pace of molasses...

[buzz words]

Dear "The Artist"

 What about the LOAN?  And what type of business do you own?

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

Yes...Tulsa without Jenks would be nothing....Yaaawnnn.....

interesting, I never go to Jenks for anything.  There is nothing there that I need.  I live and shop in Midtown, 21st to 51st, without having to shop at a mall in over 4 years.  What is there in Jenks that I must be missing.  Riverwalk is okay but more than once a year is almost too much.  There is nothing really to make me go there on a regular basis.  The antique shops are cute, but I am not into antiques.  There is plenty of good bbq without driving that far.  Oh, I may drive down to Fusco's place for brunch once every 6 months, but there are other places I like better.  Now if I lived that far out of town, then of course I would do all my shopping down there.  Oh, if I want to dine at a chain place, I do have to drive down that far, that is where they are all at.  Just my preference.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by joiei

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

Yes...Tulsa without Jenks would be nothing....Yaaawnnn.....

interesting, I never go to Jenks for anything.  There is nothing there that I need.  I live and shop in Midtown, 21st to 51st, without having to shop at a mall in over 4 years.  What is there in Jenks that I must be missing.  Riverwalk is okay but more than once a year is almost too much.  There is nothing really to make me go there on a regular basis.  The antique shops are cute, but I am not into antiques.  There is plenty of good bbq without driving that far.  Oh, I may drive down to Fusco's place for brunch once every 6 months, but there are other places I like better.  Now if I lived that far out of town, then of course I would do all my shopping down there.  Oh, if I want to dine at a chain place, I do have to drive down that far, that is where they are all at.  Just my preference.

I hope you scents my sarcasm.....[]

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by buzz words

Dear "The Artist"

 What about the LOAN?  And what type of business do you own?

I own a mural business. And have started dabbling in photography. I and my team of artists paint murals in peoples homes and in businesses. We also do some faux finishing projects if you ever need that done. Excuse the website havent updated it in years, will try to do that late this spring. http://www.williamtheartist.com/

We are currently working on a large project for a casino. 5 large ceiling murals. The largest of which is 5 stories across. The canvas on this project alone cost over 22,000 dollars. Thats a loooot of canvas to cover. We are hoping to finish this April. Plus are doing other murals "on the side". I may have to hire some more artists, but its hard to find people that can paint well, reliably and fast lol.

And NO on the loan. lol

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:Originally posted by buzz words

Dear "The Artist"

 What about the LOAN?  And what type of business do you own?

I own a mural business. And have started dabbling in photography. I and my team of artists paint murals in peoples homes and in businesses. We also do some faux finishing projects if you ever need that done. Excuse the website havent updated it in years, will try to do that late this spring. http://www.williamtheartist.com/

We are currently working on a large project for a casino. 5 large ceiling murals. The largest of which is 5 stories across. The canvas on this project alone cost over 22,000 dollars. Thats a loooot of canvas to cover. We are hoping to finish this April. Plus are doing other murals "on the side". I may have to hire some more artists, but its hard to find people that can paint well, reliably and fast lol.

And NO on the loan. lol

You should think about Joining the Tulsa HBA, if you are not allrady a member.  The new homes being built incorporate alot what you do.  

I thiink there are only a few people who specialize in your line of work in Tulsa.  Sorry to sound like an advertisment for the HBA but I've been a member for about 8 years off and on, and that's where most of my residential business comes from.  

I like your work.  Good luck with your business.

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:Originally posted by buzz words

Dear "The Artist"

 What about the LOAN?  And what type of business do you own?

I own a mural business. And have started dabbling in photography. I and my team of artists paint murals in peoples homes and in businesses. We also do some faux finishing projects if you ever need that done. Excuse the website havent updated it in years, will try to do that late this spring. http://www.williamtheartist.com/

We are currently working on a large project for a casino. 5 large ceiling murals. The largest of which is 5 stories across. The canvas on this project alone cost over 22,000 dollars. Thats a loooot of canvas to cover. We are hoping to finish this April. Plus are doing other murals "on the side". I may have to hire some more artists, but its hard to find people that can paint well, reliably and fast lol.

And NO on the loan. lol

You should think about Joining the Tulsa HBA, if you are not allrady a member.  The new homes being built incorporate alot what you do.  

I thiink there are only a few people who specialize in your line of work in Tulsa.  Sorry to sound like an advertisment for the HBA but I've been a member for about 8 years off and on, and that's where most of my residential business comes from.  

I like your work.  Good luck with your business.

Thank you vefy much. But I am sure most of the builders already know about me. I also get a lot of work from them. I remember the first several street of dreams we did a number of homes. I have easily done half or more of the homes in Wynmoor lol. It was funny with the street of dreams thing. The builders can be quite competitive and I got calls from several of them. We were sneaking from one house to the next trying to not let the builders know we were working for other builders lol. They were each trying to have the best home with the most unique and memorable features. But then at the opening they discovered we had done work in most of the homes lol. But really it shouldnt be a bid deal. I try to do each job very differently to reflect the style of the house and what the builder requests and wants to budget. I dont favor one builder over the other, I do the best I can for each and try to make each one uniqe. If one house wins over another, I am only one part of THEIR over all vision.

I am supposed to meet with a client who is "one of the investors" for the River District, who is building a second home here, to possibly do some work in their home. Once I get a rappor with them may see if I can glean any interesting info thats shareable.