Hill Dog Wins....

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/05/march.4.contests/?iref=mpstoryview

[cannon_fodder]

If she gets 97% of the remaining voted on delegates, she wins.

She did well yesterday.  Obama cut a huge lead in Ohio down and took Texas from a 16 point Hillary state to the wire.  He did NOT close the deal and Hillary lives to fight another day.

She is still behind in delegates both pledged and super.  It would be nearly impossible for her to overcome his delegate count.  It is likewise very unlikely he will get the 70% of the vote needed to grab the nomination.

This comes down to a fight in the rules committee and who the super delegates line up behind.  Will Hillary be able to go back on her agreements in Florida and Michigan now that it serves her purpose?  Can Barrack maintain his cult of personality long enough to be a viable candidate?

Honestly I could see a Clinton/Obama ticket as he is young enough to be VP for 8 years and then run comfortably.  BUT, if Clinton continues the negative attacks and backroom tactics she has been doing and probably has to continue to win - it will make that ticket awful difficult.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

If she gets 97% of the remaining voted on delegates, she wins.

She did well yesterday.  Obama cut a huge lead in Ohio down and took Texas from a 16 point Hillary state to the wire.  He did NOT close the deal and Hillary lives to fight another day.

She is still behind in delegates both pledged and super.  It would be nearly impossible for her to overcome his delegate count.  It is likewise very unlikely he will get the 70% of the vote needed to grab the nomination.

This comes down to a fight in the rules committee and who the super delegates line up behind.  Will Hillary be able to go back on her agreements in Florida and Michigan now that it serves her purpose?  Can Barrack maintain his cult of personality long enough to be a viable candidate?

Honestly I could see a Clinton/Obama ticket as he is young enough to be VP for 8 years and then run comfortably.  BUT, if Clinton continues the negative attacks and backroom tactics she has been doing and probably has to continue to win - it will make that ticket awful difficult.

Principled democrats will not support a Hillary/Barack ticket. Black voters won't go to the polls. Without that segment of the nation, she loses against McCain. Easy math.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

If she gets 97% of the remaining voted on delegates, she wins.

She did well yesterday.  Obama cut a huge lead in Ohio down and took Texas from a 16 point Hillary state to the wire.  He did NOT close the deal and Hillary lives to fight another day.

She is still behind in delegates both pledged and super.  It would be nearly impossible for her to overcome his delegate count.  It is likewise very unlikely he will get the 70% of the vote needed to grab the nomination.

This comes down to a fight in the rules committee and who the super delegates line up behind.  Will Hillary be able to go back on her agreements in Florida and Michigan now that it serves her purpose?  Can Barrack maintain his cult of personality long enough to be a viable candidate?

Honestly I could see a Clinton/Obama ticket as he is young enough to be VP for 8 years and then run comfortably.  BUT, if Clinton continues the negative attacks and backroom tactics she has been doing and probably has to continue to win - it will make that ticket awful difficult.

Principled democrats will not support a Hillary/Barack ticket. Black voters won't go to the polls. Without that segment of the nation, she loses against McCain. Easy math.

pancakes?  What are you smoking?  You are saying blacks are only going to the polls because someone black is running? I don't have the words to describe that nonsense!

[FOTD]

Black voters more than any other catagory will be disenfranchised by a closed door convention that goes with Hillarity. Take the black vote away from Obamas numbers and he's way behind in delegates. They will be the group that either elects Obama or makes McCaintwin chances better because they stayed at home refusing to support Clinton/Lieberman. We wouldn't expect you to "get it" noninteller...

[RecycleMichael]

I disagree with FOTD on this.

Obama has energized both black and white voters...I think they will still vote in November.

For you to imply that blacks only care about black candidates is insulting.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I disagree with FOTD on this.

Obama has energized both black and white voters...I think they will still vote in November.

For you to imply that blacks only care about black candidates is insulting.

I get my info from a Black person in the know. So, you also don't get it. Disenfranchised voters tend to not vote. There is 101 more delegates pledged to BO. He only needs %46 of the remainder delegates. If Billary keeps up with changing the rules they created, you can bet the Black vote will not show up. There are hundred of thousands of Black votes that never voted until Barack Obama showed his stuff.

[Conan71]

I'm actually in agreement to some extent w/ FOTD on this one.

If black voters feel Hillary has dumped on Obama or pulled off back room chicanery with his camp, they won't vote for her, and are quite likely to stay at home in protest.  

Certainly, not all will do that but there will definitely be a percentage who do and it could be a big enough percentage to sway an election.