Tulsa Neighborhood Identification Signs

[Cirage]

Can someone help me find images of the neighborhood identification signs? I haven't had much luck with tulsaartscommission.org nor Google image search. I know I can count on you guys!

[Steve]

Be sure to check out the signs for my neighborhood, Lortondale, located on Yale Avenue at 26th St., 26th Terrace, 26th Place, and 27th Street.  These signs were designed by my neighbor across the street, but I won't name her without her permission.

The City commission that approved our signs remarked that these were the first signs they had seen that actually incorporated the architecture of the neighborhood, and were not just some generic-looking signs with trees/flowers and such.  I think they are great signs; too bad the City would only let us have the 4 signs on Yale, and none on Darlington or Hudson.

[cks511]

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/Community/Neighborhoods/SignGuide.asp

If you open the pdf on the page you will see Lortondale's, very cool.

[Cirage]

Thanks Steve.  Lortondale's sign is definitely my favorite of the bunch. I won't name any names (I'm afraid I may know some of the designers) but a few of the signs are sorely lacking.
If anyone knows someone who I can contact about obtaining high res (or any res really) files of the designs, that would really help as well.

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by Cirage

Thanks Steve.  Lortondale's sign is definitely my favorite of the bunch. I won't name any names (I'm afraid I may know some of the designers) but a few of the signs are sorely lacking.
If anyone knows someone who I can contact about obtaining high res (or any res really) files of the designs, that would really help as well.

You're welcome.  Our Lortondale signs are sort of a stylized image of a typical Lortondale modern home taken from the original 1954 sales brochure.  But all ultimate design credit goes to Lori that designed the sign, chose the image, colors, fonts, etc.  Great, unique signs for a great, unique Tulsa neighborhood!

[booWorld]

quote:Originally posted by Steve

...the City would only let us have the 4 signs on Yale, and none on Darlington or Hudson.

Why?

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

quote:Originally posted by Steve

...the City would only let us have the 4 signs on Yale, and none on Darlington or Hudson.

Why?

Something about access to major arterial streets.  Lortondale extends from 26th St. to 27th Pl. on Yale, east to Darlington.  The Lortondale Second subdivision is east on these same streets, from Darlington to Hudson Ave.  We have the signs to place on many more locations in the neighborhood, but the City will not allow it.  The City would only let us place our neighborhood signs on Yale, on the back of the 4 stop signs that intersect Yale.  I was not involved in the signage process, but fellow TulsaNow poster "hoodlum" is the president of our neighborhood assn. and was involved in the signage process.  Perhaps he can explain the process and restrictions better than I can.

[booWorld]

There are so many signs around my neighborhood (Riverview) that I've lost count.  They are usually, if not always, on the backs of stop signs.

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

There are so many signs around my neighborhood (Riverview) that I've lost count.  They are usually, if not always, on the backs of stop signs.

That is one of the reqirements, neighborhood signs must be fixed to the back side of stop signs, on major aterial streets.  That is why Lortondale has only 4 neigborhood signs on Yale Ave. Or at least that is the explanation given to us by City officials.  I have noticed that Mayo Meadow has many more signs than my neighborhood, Lortondale, and they have many signs on Yale and on Pittsburgh Ave.  I think we in Lortondale are cheated and have been given the runaround and lied to about the sign issue.

Chime in here Hoodlum about what you know of the neighborood sign issue.  I know you were instrumental in getting the Lortondale signs posted.  If Lortondale was treated like similar Tulsa subdivisions, we would have the fabulous Lortondale signs all along Darlington and Hudson too, not just Yale.

[tulsa1603]

quote:Originally posted by Cirage

Thanks Steve.  Lortondale's sign is definitely my favorite of the bunch. I won't name any names (I'm afraid I may know some of the designers) but a few of the signs are sorely lacking.
If anyone knows someone who I can contact about obtaining high res (or any res really) files of the designs, that would really help as well.

Hey be careful...I was on the sign committee that helped come up with the design for a neighborhood (not Florence Park, my current neighborhood).    It's not that easy.  We actually had TU art students working with us.  I think Lortondale obviously has distinctive architecture that translates well to something graphically simple...more detailed 1930's cottages, not so much.  

To be honest, I rarely notice the signs in any neighborhood.  I think the back of the stop signe location is not an obvious place for people to look.

[Cirage]

Oh, believe me, I was being careful.
As a whole, I think the project was fantastic, and I wish that I had been a Tulsan at the time of their inception. But there are a few of the signs that don't seem to reach their potential. This was no fault of the designers who I'm sure had a frustrating time filtering the opinions of so many different people during the approval process.  Nothing ruins a great idea quicker than too many cooks in the kitchen.

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by Cirage

But there are a few of the signs that don't seem to reach their potential. This was no fault of the designers who I'm sure had a frustrating time filtering the opinions of so many different people during the approval process.  Nothing ruins a great idea quicker than too many cooks in the kitchen.

For my neighborhood, Lortondale, this is how we selected the sign.  Back in 2004-early 2005, when we had only about 15-20 active association members, the association requested design submissions from interested residents.  About 6 designs were submitted, all good, from residents with artistic talent.  Those of us with little graphic design talent, including myself, sat this one out.  After about 3 months, our association members voted on the sign from those submitted, and our sign today was the winning design.  No arguments, no bickering, and the signs we have posted today are the designer's original, unaltered design.

Picking the design was easy.  City approval, production, and installation took the most time.