Beer laws

[TheTed]

How do Oklahoma's crazy beer laws pertain to outdoor sales/consumption?

I was at the Tulsa Tough (bike race) last year and tried to get a real beer from Dirty's to bring outside and watch the races. They said I could only bring 3.2 beer outside.

They seem to only sell 3.2 beer for outside consumption at outdoor events like dfest, tulsa tough and mayfest. But I'm not sure if that's just a function of the fact that all our macrobrews are 3.2.

Is it legal to walk down the street anywhere in Tulsa drinking a 3.2 beer? Is it illegal to drink a real beer at mayfest?

[Breadburner]

You can not walk down the street drinking a beer in Tulsa...

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

You can not walk down the street drinking a beer in Tulsa...

Which is actually crazy because I thought the whole reasoning behind the 3.2 beer law was so that it could be classified as a 'non-intoxicating' beverage so it could be sold chilled in the grocery stores.

This state needs to revise it's archaic liquor laws.

[TeeDub]

If you can't go outside with anything over 3.2%, how do you explain the high point German beer sold at Oktoberfest?  How do you explain all the Wine tasting events?

Or did they get brewers and vintners to make 3.2% beer and wine?

http://www.tulsaoktoberfest.org/ofest2007/Pages.aspx?pageid=5

[BKDotCom]

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub


If you can't go outside with anything over 3.2%, how do you explain the high point German beer sold at Oktoberfest?  How do you explain all the Wine tasting events?

Sure, there's no roof over your head, but you're inside the festival's fencing..  you can't walk outside of the festival with it...   I assume it's just like any patio seating at a restaurant.  You're still on restaurant property.

[TheTed]

So I can't walk out of Mayfest with a beer? There seems to be no effort to contain the perimeter to prevent anybody from walking out with a beer or walking in with their own beer.

[MH2010]

You can drink beer outside.  Here are the city of Tulsa ordinances....

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/ourcity/ordinances/Title27.asp#Chapter3

[TeeDub]

How about Las Cabos on the Riverwalk.   You can definitely get strong mixed drinks there and wander all over.

I bet dirty's was just worried about liability issues.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

You can drink beer outside.  Here are the city of Tulsa ordinances....

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/ourcity/ordinances/Title27.asp#Chapter3

that jumped to a page about offenses to public justice....freudian slip?

[TheTed]

If you can drink 3.2 beer outside then why wouldn't all the downtown/sobo/brookside bars serve to people on the street ala new orleans and memphis?

[MH2010]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

You can drink beer outside.  Here are the city of Tulsa ordinances....

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/ourcity/ordinances/Title27.asp#Chapter3

that jumped to a page about offenses to public justice....freudian slip?

Sorry, I guess that was where I was on the page when I linked it.  The link is to all city ordinances.  There is no ordinance about drinking 3.2 beer on the street.  You have to have a permit to sell it on the street but not to drink it.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub


If you can't go outside with anything over 3.2%, how do you explain the high point German beer sold at Oktoberfest?  How do you explain all the Wine tasting events?

Or did they get brewers and vintners to make 3.2% beer and wine?

http://www.tulsaoktoberfest.org/ofest2007/Pages.aspx?pageid=5

I believe oktoberfest is 3.2

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

So I can't walk out of Mayfest with a beer? There seems to be no effort to contain the perimeter to prevent anybody from walking out with a beer or walking in with their own beer.

There is security but they aren't blocking the entrances. However it's pretty obvious if you brought something in from outside since no coolers or backpacks are allowed and Mayfest beer is in a 16oz plastic cup.

There is no-one physically stopping you from walking out of the festival with a beer but 99% of laws don't involve police officers sitting there going "no, no, don't do that.."

[bugo]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub


If you can't go outside with anything over 3.2%, how do you explain the high point German beer sold at Oktoberfest?  How do you explain all the Wine tasting events?

Or did they get brewers and vintners to make 3.2% beer and wine?

http://www.tulsaoktoberfest.org/ofest2007/Pages.aspx?pageid=5

I believe oktoberfest is 3.2

The Germans should sue Tulsa for having an "Oktoberfest" with the 3.2 pee water beer.

I won't drink the stuff.  It tastes horrible, it gives me a headache, and you have to drink a gallon of it to get a buzz.  When I drink, which is rare, I get a high-point beer like Spaten Optimator (7.2) and put it in my freezer for a bit.  It tastes MUCH better and I get a nice buzz off of one 16.9 oz bottle which costs something like $1.79 at the Parkhill liquor store, and 2 of them make me pretty wasted (I'm a lightweight).  What a deal.  As a non-native, I cannot understand why anybody would buy the 3.2 beer, unless it's on Sunday or after 9.  And if you are worried about price, you can get a sixer of full strength Pabst for about the same as a sixer of the hated 3.2 beer mandated by a bunch of prudes in the 50s.  It's funny, but most of my friends that are from here don't drink full strength beer.  So when I'm offered a beer, I ask if it's 3.2 and if it is, I politely decline the offer.

[TheTed]

quote:Originally posted by bugo

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub


If you can't go outside with anything over 3.2%, how do you explain the high point German beer sold at Oktoberfest?  How do you explain all the Wine tasting events?

Or did they get brewers and vintners to make 3.2% beer and wine?

http://www.tulsaoktoberfest.org/ofest2007/Pages.aspx?pageid=5

I believe oktoberfest is 3.2

The Germans should sue Tulsa for having an "Oktoberfest" with the 3.2 pee water beer.

I won't drink the stuff.  It tastes horrible, it gives me a headache, and you have to drink a gallon of it to get a buzz.  When I drink, which is rare, I get a high-point beer like Spaten Optimator (7.2) and put it in my freezer for a bit.  It tastes MUCH better and I get a nice buzz off of one 16.9 oz bottle which costs something like $1.79 at the Parkhill liquor store, and 2 of them make me pretty wasted (I'm a lightweight).  What a deal.  As a non-native, I cannot understand why anybody would buy the 3.2 beer, unless it's on Sunday or after 9.  And if you are worried about price, you can get a sixer of full strength Pabst for about the same as a sixer of the hated 3.2 beer mandated by a bunch of prudes in the 50s.  It's funny, but most of my friends that are from here don't drink full strength beer.  So when I'm offered a beer, I ask if it's 3.2 and if it is, I politely decline the offer.

The Spaten and other good beers at Oktoberfest aren't even made in 3.2 varieties, are they?

I instantly lose all respect for the people who are drinking 3.2 budweiser at oktoberfest. I really do enjoy Oktoberfest but ours should be ineligible for inclusion onto any 'best oktoberfest' lists with all that pee water that most people drink.

I end up having to go out of my way to get actual german beer, walking past lots of budweiser/miller vendors on the way.